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Old Thu, Sep-23-04, 14:27
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Plan: My own, post Atkins
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Location: los angeles
Default any good non ephedrine thermogenics??

Hi,
I have been wanting to use a thermogenic to help weightloss. I haven't used one since before ephedrine was made illegal here, and I was wondering if any, and which, of the new formulas work.
I would love to make my own ECA stack, but again, ephedra is now unavailable.
Does anyone have suggestions?
Is there a good ephedra replacement??

I looked in the thermogenic thread already and it only talks about products that have ephedra.
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Old Thu, Sep-23-04, 21:44
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Plan: Loony plans
Stats: 205/146/145 Male 5'6" - 167cm
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I hear a lot about Hot Rox. A little expensive though.
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Old Thu, Sep-23-04, 22:26
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Plan: Metabolic Surge
Stats: 170/139/? Female 5'8"
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Location: Canada's Wet Coast
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Ephedra (the herb) is illegal in the USA.

Ephedrine HCL (the drug) is legal, and sold as a decongestant in the USA.

Make your own ECA stack. It's better, cheaper, and safer than any prepared stack anyway.
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Old Fri, Sep-24-04, 14:46
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Plan: General Low Carb
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I have heard good things about "synephrine". You'll find it in some weight loss products. The generic brand is petty cheap.

J.
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Old Fri, Sep-24-04, 15:03
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Plan: Metabolic Surge
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I tried synephrine and I found it gave me the jitters in an intolerable way, but I'm okay with ephedrine HCL. Some have the exact opposite reaction - it might be just me.
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Old Fri, Sep-24-04, 15:24
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Plan: hi prot/carb/cal cycling
Stats: 138.5/133.5/120 Female 64 inches
BF:20%
Progress: 27%
Location: San francisco
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I have tried synephrine...does not work as well as ephedrine but gives you the same jitters. teh only non ephedrins products I have heard good reviews about ...and I think it is made with synephrine is Sans Tight
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Old Fri, Sep-24-04, 21:08
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Plan: My own, post Atkins
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I think i will try making my own. Can anyone tell me the ratios to use? And also- it's baby aspirin (or a low dose daily type), right? And is it vivarin or something else for the caffeine?

What types of dosages do you use thru the day?
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Old Fri, Sep-24-04, 21:14
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Plan: Metabolic Surge
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Dosages etc are all discussed here, especially in the more recent posts:
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=32311
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