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Old Tue, Feb-11-20, 09:55
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https://www.bannerhealth.com/health...our-cholesterol

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Eating foods containing dietary cholesterol like meat, poultry and full-fat dairy products affects the overall cholesterol levels in your body. There are also certain foods that can trigger your liver to produce more cholesterol than it otherwise normally would. Foods high in saturated and trans fats as well as oils often found in baked goods, like palm oil and coconut oil, are all on the list of things that can cause your liver to produce more cholesterol than usual. These added levels of cholesterol can push your cholesterol levels from healthy to unhealthy.
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Doesn't surprise me, Mike. Banner Health is still living with the prevalent misconceptions we've all been trained on since the late 1960s. It's a practice with mostly physicians, and they know "wellness" sells, however much of a meaningless term that is. The reaction to fats is typical and misguided. Seniors like me need healthy fats and more protein, and what doesn't work for me is a plant-based diet. Here's another link from their website that reveals how they practice their wellness philosophy:

https://www.bannerhealth.com/stayin.../healthy-eating
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The Banner Health organization seems to reflect what I believed to be healthy twenty years ago. They seem to be stuck in the past with their nutrition program.
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The Banner Health organization seems to reflect what I believed to be healthy twenty years ago. They seem to be stuck in the past with their nutrition program.



They also have a bunch of clowns writing those articles.



For instance, the way they have things worded in the cholesterol article -

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Eating foods containing dietary cholesterol like meat, poultry and full-fat dairy products affects the overall cholesterol levels in your body.
Of course they affect your cholesterol levels - actually lowers them if you eat enough of them.


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Foods high in saturated and trans fats as well as oils often found in baked goods, like palm oil and coconut oil, are all on the list of things that can cause your liver to produce more cholesterol than usual. These added levels of cholesterol can push your cholesterol levels from healthy to unhealthy.
Hmm... what else is found in baked goods? Oh yeah, carbs, lots and lots of carbs, which can indeed raise cholesterol levels.


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LDL is essentially bad cholesterol, while HDL is good cholesterol. Therefore, if your HDL levels are high, she says you’re typically in good shape. She explains that the easiest way to increase your HDL levels is through exercise and the way to reduce LDL levels is typically through prescribed medications.


Exactly - the easiest way for the doctor to deal with it is to preach to you that you need to exercise more, and since most patients can't possibly exercise enough to affect their cholesterol levels to the degree required, the easiest thing for them to do is put you on meds to lower your LDL.



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Did either of you notice the lists of low fat and high fat foods at the end of the healthy eating article? They listed the fat for each food as calories of fat, not grams of fat. So taking those lists as truth, the high fat list will provide 108 calories of fat (12 g fat), while the much healthier low fat list claims it provides 32.5 calories of fat, a total savings of 75.5 fat calories, or 8.3 fewer grams of fat. Wow, eating all those cruddy low fat versions will make a huge difference in your daily fat count, won't it?



You'd think if they're going to continue to push such dietary nonsense as low fat, they'd at least have someone proofread the information before publishing it.
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