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Old Fri, May-27-11, 07:03
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I completely agree, I think all restaurants should have sugar free menu's heck, it would be great if everyone just stopped using processed food, but hey, thats just me....
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Old Fri, May-27-11, 07:29
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Type-2 Diabetes has become an epidemic in my family. My grandfather and all of my uncles have it, and all are overweight. I'll have to give the doctors around here credit, though. From the way it sounds, their steadfast advice is to go completely low carb. Most of our family conversations revolve around what has sugar and how much and how to avoid it. I just wish it didn't take something like diabetes to realize this.
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Old Fri, May-27-11, 10:15
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On a recent business trip I ate at Cracker Barrel for breakfast. I was pleasantly shocked to see a "low carb" section on the breakfast menu.
Yes, they also have a fairly decent low carb lunch/dinner menu too, though their "double meat" breakfast is my favorite. I often stop at Cracker Barrel for meals when I'm traveling up and down the east coast. However if you stop in their store it's all CANDY CANDY CANDY. I was there earlier this month and just spent a bit of time looking at all the "food" offerings in their store. I may have missed something, but didn't see one single item that a low carber could eat. Even the gum they sold was full of sugar.
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Old Fri, May-27-11, 10:33
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[color=indigo]It's really very sad. When I was diagnosed with type 2, I dove headfirst into research, and I discovered the wonders on low-carb and high-fat. My mother is also a type 2, and my father is as well, though he is in denial (refuses to admit to being more than "pre-diabetic"). My mother insists she cooks very "healthy" for them. You know, they use WHOLE GRAIN spaghetti, low-sugar oatmeal, corn/peas/carrots quite regularly (obviously excellent choices since they are vegetables), only skim milk, always lowfat mayo, etc.
My parents were both also T2 (as am I, <sigh>, though neither of my sisters are). My mom never changed the way she cooked for them, carbs all the way, and never really had a chance to try learn any other way, as she developed Alzheimer's at the age of 56. From then on my dad provided meals, but he was not a cook. So it was lots of take-out and things like frozen lasagna, pizza, burgers (with buns and fries). I never went to their house and didn't find boxes of cookies, 2-3 Entenmann's coffee cakes. My dad's usual breakfast was coffee cake and coffee, lunch would be a burger with bun and fries followed by cookies or else a sandwich with deli cold cuts, dinner would be pizza or heated up lasagna followed by ice cream, and possible pie as he often bought pies at the grocery store. Mom had to be hand-fed after a while - and her typical breakfast was eggs, a bowl or two of instant oatmeal, 2-3 slices of toast, and a banana. For lunch she got "Meals on Wheels" which always included potatoes or pasta or rice, a yeast roll or biscuit, and a sugary dessert, and dinner was usually what my dad had with possibly extra helpings of ice cream.

But my dad *did* fill his fridge with fat-free mayo, tubs and tubs and tubs of grotesque fat-free margarines, fat-free half-and-half (a contradiction in terms right there). When I would visit them I would always run to the store on my first visit there and buy some real butter, real cream, etc. And my dad would always berate me for buying such awful fatty stuff and tell me that's why I was "so fat".

Neither of them were ever given any recommendations on how to eat, just more and more meds on tops of meds. My mom was hospitalized at age 77, and her blood sugars were so high that my dad was told she needed to be on insulin and she was sent home the next day with my dad and some insulin and syringe, and he was told to give it to her with NO instructions on how and when to do it whatsoever!

And we are talking about a woman here who was basically in a bedridden vegetative state, had been unable to walk for over 8 years, had not been able to talk for 10 years, not been able to recognize a soul - yet here they are trying to continue to prolong her life and give her insulin as she continued to be fed the above diet. She died a week later. My younger sister is convinced that she probably died of an insulin overdose because my dad had been given no instructions, and wasn't sure what he was supposed to be doing, and was trying to get help from the daily aide who came in to bathe and feed my mom - and she thinks that between them they gave her a double dose. Did they? We'll never know now.

And my dad died five years later, shortly before his 82nd birthday, still eating as above right up to the very last day of his life. The thing is, though, that even if they had gone to a diabetes educator who told them to follow a strict low carb diet I can give you an absolute 100% gurantee right now that they would never ever have done it. They just loved all their carby stuff way too much.
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Old Fri, May-27-11, 12:55
Sue333 Sue333 is offline
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I'm really sorry about your mother Merpig...that is a very tragic story. You say your father died at age 82...was he in reasonably good health, despite his high carb diet? Some people, amazingly enough, seem to pull it off.
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Old Fri, May-27-11, 13:24
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I'm really sorry about your mother Merpig...that is a very tragic story. You say your father died at age 82...was he in reasonably good health, despite his high carb diet? Some people, amazingly enough, seem to pull it off.
He did have some physical health issues, but was "all there" mentally right up to the very last day. And while his blood sugars did shoot up when he got ill or had infections they remained quite stable and pretty normal - fasting levels in the 90s and PP levels not that high - despite eating probably a 80% carb diet - mostly sugars and refined grains, and no medications beyond metformin.
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Old Fri, May-27-11, 14:12
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It's really pathetic the food that gets approved for diabetics..I am type 2,and so I notice things...Last night there was a commercial on for Free diabetic cookbooks...Guess what they kept showing through the commercial??? That's right..A Chocolate Bundt cake with glazed frosting on it!! All I saw advertised were desserts,stuffed baked potatoes,Nachos,Pizza...Sickening..
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Old Fri, May-27-11, 21:54
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3 letters. FDA.


The FDA who raids raw food co ops ?
http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/...w_food_milk.php
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Old Sat, May-28-11, 05:41
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The control by the Government in our Nation's food is astronomical (hello farm subsidies and the huge push in the food pyramid). I am still waiting for private gardens to be outlawed.
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Old Sat, May-28-11, 07:00
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The control by the Government in our Nation's food is astronomical (hello farm subsidies and the huge push in the food pyramid). I am still waiting for private gardens to be outlawed.


They're already building up to it. There was an effort, not sure how successful, to put RA chips on livestock such as goats, chickens or cows owned by individuals.
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Old Sat, May-28-11, 10:48
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Mmmmm... yep, I love the Cracker Barrel breakfasts -- low carb section of the menu. I get the 'eggs and double meat' served with tomato slices and I order a side of cottage cheese. I did notice the sausage patties that came with it were sweet (maple/sugar?). Next time I'll just double up on the bacon. Good eats for low carbers.
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Old Sat, May-28-11, 12:03
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Mmmmm... yep, I love the Cracker Barrel breakfasts -- low carb section of the menu. I get the 'eggs and double meat' served with tomato slices and I order a side of cottage cheese. I did notice the sausage patties that came with it were sweet (maple/sugar?). Next time I'll just double up on the bacon. Good eats for low carbers.


I do double bacon and sliced tomatoes with my eggs. No way could I eat anything else with it....I'm too full. My DD gets turkey sausage, but I don't know if it is sweet. She hasn't said.
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Old Sat, May-28-11, 23:40
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My uncle is a type 2 diabetic, and decided to try low-carb (standard Atkins). Result? He got off Glyburide, Actos and Januvia. He still takes Metformin, but at a reduced dose from before.

Went from following the recommended 'diabetic diet' (fairly high-ish in carbs imo) to Atkins induction. Did induction for several months and transitioned to OWL. He's found that he can eat higher carb things here and there, without experiencing a negative effect with his blood sugar readings - meaning that more vegetables or a few berries here and there aren't doing him any harm at all.

He was on maximum diabetic medications (short of insulin) and his blood sugars were still getting out of hand. When his specialist doctor made noises about insulin, he decided to give low-carb a try. These days - his blood sugars look normal, and he's kept this up for a couple of years now. Not only did he not have to go on insulin, he got rid of a bunch of medications entirely.

In conjunction with Atkins, he added vitamin D3, magnesium, B-12 as well as a standard multi-vitamin.

As for what he eats? Pretty simple: meat, eggs, fish, vegetables. A few berries here and there (not daily), a bit of apple here and there. There are a few extras here and there, but for the most part it's meat/fish/eggs/vegetables. Some nuts occasionally too.

In terms of eating out - he just follows Atkins, and he's not looking for a diabetic menu or anything in particular like that. Also - there is one thing that the old "diabetic diet" he used to be on was good for - making him steer clear of desserts. To this day, he cannot be bothered with making low-carb desserts or anything like that. I think it's from years of not eating sweets - he's just not into desserts. This has turned out to be a good thing. He did tell me that upon trying 'diabetic approved' chocolates, that his blood sugar shot up, and he also made an effort to quit diet pop.

With regard to doctors - it was weird, because he asked his "diabetic specialist" (endo I think) if there was anything he could do, diet-wise, and she said no. I suggested he talk to his regular GP, and she turned out to be just excellent. She tested his vitamin levels, agreed that he needed magnesium, B-12 and D3 and worked with him as he tapered down off all the medications. She is just fabulous, and really listened to him and encouraged him as he worked hard at turning his whole lifestyle around. I'm not sure she was entirely convinced at first, but he went in there with log books of everything he was eating and his four-times daily blood sugar tests and she was pretty impressed. Right from the get-go though, she was on-board with what he was trying to do. I think this helped a great deal. It's kind of scary to do this...turn everything around and be tinkering with lowering and reducing medications. His doctor was great about it all. His regular physician, and not the specialist. Like I said, it really helped him to have a good doctor who was willing to help him get this all sorted out.

It totally worked
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Old Tue, May-31-11, 05:28
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In terms of eating out - he just follows Atkins, and he's not looking for a diabetic menu or anything in particular like that.

Agreed - I have never ordered off of any special "healthy" or "diabetes-friendly" menu. I have yet to find a restaurant where I can't just order meat and salad or other non-starchy veggie (lots of places have broccoli as a side option).
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Old Tue, May-31-11, 06:03
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I was diagnosed 3 weeks ago with type 2 diabetes. My blood sugars were at 18.3. My doctor RECOMMENDED low carb - in particular southbeach (but I am an atkins girl all the way)!!! I have been back on induction for 3 weeks, and my blood sugars are between 7.2 and 8.1. I also take metforim. I have to say though, when I went for my followup last Friday, she was stunned at my results - said flat out to continue what I was doing, adn if my results are still this good in six months, she will take me off the meds.
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