Amen to that! I'm not at all imposed to implants, but don't get big ones. It's just not worth it men or no men! But if it will make you feel better then do it. Unfortunately, like you said, they'll comment on them being fake or whatever other insults they can think of. I have a friend who was very small and got b's and they look great- totally natural and right for her frame. She has a lot easier time with clothes now too. Do what you want, I'm seriously thinking tummy tuck after I lose the weight.

i'm stacked but i'm sure not dumb...the two are not mutually inclusive.

There are plenty of flat and stupid girls out there too.... not nice to make generalizations about a woman with large boobs, her brains don't leak out just because her girls are bounteous...

I used that term because the OP had said she'd glady give up some of her intelligence for bigger breasts.

The size of your bra doesn't correlate to the size of your brain any more than a man's shoe size correlates to anything else.

JAnn,

Thanks for sharing! I guess your boobs are true boobs and not mostly fat. My other boss has D's and she's pretty tiny to begin with and now that she's lost even more weight, she's still has the exact same boob size. Its ridiculous. She's got the porn star body now but REAL. She doesn't look fat though (?)

Believe it or not, small boobs doesn't ensure clean blouses. I get stains on them anyway! Maybe I'm just a messy baby! Give me a bib.

The advantage of having breasts (at all): How much time and $$$ you'll save on NOT getting surgery.

It's all a competition, I've come to realise. If you want to "compete" you have to be a fighting weight. You have to some market value - yes, MEAT market prices apply. It's sad, but true. This is what society has reduced us to.

The scratch and dent comment, made me smile but also brought tears to my eyes. Yes, I want someone who will appreciate me for all my scratches and dents and there are PLENTY, but I understand that I might as well be wishing for a pig with wings.

Out of curiosity, and anything LESS?

I guess I look at it this way, you get what you pay for. And I certainly can't expect "perfection" (as I see it) from a man, if I'm not "perfect" myself. Good looking/good hearted/good all around people attract others of a similiar vein. A good looking person in general, is not going to want to be with a fat slug. Pretty much any halfway decent guy, that includes looks, intelligence, personality, etc. is not going to approach Little Miss Sluggo when he can try his luck with Little Miss Starlet Wannabe down at the other end of the bar. Yeah, so what she's an vacuous superficial airhead, but she's a HOT ditz.

You know what? Don't mind me. I'm in a very dark place right now. Jealousy is eating me up (too bad its not eating my fat ) I see the boy I like tomorrow and I feel miserable.

Vgal, I'm going to give you the same advice I gave my daughter when she got to the marriage age: Don't go looking for a husband. If you spend your time making you the best person you can be, then you will find the man who shares the same values as you and will value the person you are inside.

As a person who has been married to the same man for 40 years come June I can tell you that the above advice works. Of course I didn't find a "perfect" man, just someone who loves me, works with me, and for the most part shares the same values that I have. Is it a perfect marriage? No, as Dale Evans said about her marriage to Roy Rogers, "It wasn't a perfect marriage but it was a good marriage."
I see by your stats that you've lost 57 pounds. WTG!

My SO was supremely offended when I let him read this thread. His response to the "hot ditz" comment is as follows:

" Hi everyone. This is sort of awkward, but Amory got me all fired up about this. Please remember that the 'hot ditz' is merely eye candy--something to glance at, maybe indulge in a fantasy or two, maybe sample, but never more than that. Just like a piece of retail chocolate. The 'hot ditz' usually spends most of her time as a bar fly because men are too intimidated to speak to her. When someone does have the courage to approach and strike up a conversation, they are immediately disappointed by her lack of wit, failing sense of humor (if any), and general flakiness. We sample the Hershey Kiss, decide there are better things out there, and move on.

What do we LIKE to approach? You can look like ANYTHING, really, if you exude self-confidence. It's cliche, but there is nothing sexier to a man than a woman who might not be a 10, but ACTS like she is--and you're a fool if you can't see it, too. Now, I'm not saying arrogant, but there's a lot to be said for a physically imperfect--and PERFECT is subjective--who has a wicked sense of a humor, rapier wit, and smile that could melt glaciers.

I myself am not a fan of 'vacuous superficial airhead[s]'--I prefer a woman with a big brain, big heart, and big capacity to put up with me! Those things are much more important than a set of breasts. Most men want a REAL woman--not something crafted out of plastic, or that has had all of her curves sucked out of her by some machine. Hell, we just feel lucky if we know we have a chance to get close to you!

Maybe I just have a better appreciation for women since I've spent the past 18 months in the bowels of hell, a.k.a. Iraq. As an officer, I've seen a drastic change in most of my soldiers. Sure, they're female-crazy. But you know what? Most of them stay away from the 'hot ditz' persona. A 'hot ditz' isn't going to stick by you when you've been shot in the hips or had your arm blown off by a rocket propelled grenade. So it's kind of like the scratch and dent theory--you want someone who is going to LOVE you and support you for who you are, flaws and all, not someone who is merely nice to look at. If anything, my experience with the military has made me appreciate Amory all the more.

So Vgal, if you read this, please don't kill yourself obsessing over a new rack (excuse the slang). I know a dozen or so guys right now that would kill just to be in your company, and breast size is completely irrelevant. My platoon talks about women extensively--how can you not when you're forced to live in the desert for 18 months without female contact--and you know what? Most of my guys said they'd rather have a women with a flat chest than a woman with big, fake, saline ones. Natural is NICE. Whether it's big, small, non-existent, it doesn't matter. Those characteristics are what make the women we love LOVABLE.

Anyway, I hope I haven't bored or annoyed anyone. Uh, good luck with the low-carb life?

Rangers Lead the Way!"


Note from Amory: I am large-breasted and hate my chest. Vgal, while you are considering implants, I would give anything for my health insurance to provide a reduction. Unfortunately, most men look at me and stick ME in the 'hot ditz' category. I guess long blonde hair and big breasts are enough to make me an object of persecution and ridicule by women, and I'm automatically discounted as unintelligent by most men...just because of how I look. Too bad that if they actually TALKED to me instead of taking inventory of my 'assets' they might retract judging a book by its cover. After all, I don't know too many 'hot ditzs' that have a bachelors and masters degree.

Anyway, I hope that you are happy and satisfied with whatever decision you make concerning your body. I wish I could give you self-confidence, but that is something that must be discovered on the inside to radiate on the outside.

Best wishes,
Amory

Thank you for the cheering section. I'm still a ways to go, but working on it. I'm not looking for a husband, I'm not feeling the pressure to get married except when one of my family members reminds me that I'm old and not getting any younger, I'm the only single one left, etc. But even then I'm not in a hurry for marriage. That being said, I would like a "mate", someone to care for, a boyfriend. I think I'm lonely. Men can smell desperation like dogs smell fear - if you hunt for it, they stay away.

Dale Evans was a smart woman.

Oh boy, I feel like playing devil's avocate. Humour me here. Venting helps me feel like I at least have a voice somewhere. Setting it free, and all that?

Dear Proud Soldier and Amory Blain's Husband,

First and foremost, thank you for your dedicated service. Although I do not support this war, I do support those servicepeople who are there putting their asses (unlike our president) on the line to protect this country. So thank you. I have family members who have served, but luckily never during a war.

Now onto the meat of this, in response to your post:


Hi everyone. This is sort of awkward, but Amory got me all fired up about this. Please remember that the 'hot ditz' is merely eye candy--something to glance at, maybe indulge in a fantasy or two, maybe sample, but never more than that. We sample the Hershey Kiss, decide there are better things out there, and move on.

**This applies to only MATURE men or ones that aren’t completely delusional or caught up in the superficial trap. And offended? Ha! Offended is when someone looks right through you because you're not "hot enough". Ever seen the look of disappointment on a man's face when foundation garments come off? That's offensive.



What do we LIKE to approach? You can look like ANYTHING, really, if you exude self-confidence. It's cliche, but there is nothing sexier to a man than a woman who might not be a 10, but ACTS like she is--and you're a fool if you can't see it, too. Now, I'm not saying arrogant, but there's a lot to be said for a physically imperfect--and PERFECT is subjective--who has a wicked sense of a humor, rapier wit, and smile that could melt glaciers.


**Honey, if that were the case, I’d have men falling at my feet everyday all the time. You know what a wing man is? That’s what a rapier wit and a great smile get you – your hot friend’s standing next to you phone number. Men who aren’t intimidated MORE by a sharp mind than a hot body/face are few and FAR between. They might enjoy TALKING to you, but they don’t want to DATE you.



Most men want a REAL woman--not something crafted out of plastic, or that has had all of her curves sucked out of her by some machine. Hell, we just feel lucky if we know we have a chance to get close to you!

Maybe I just have a better appreciation for women since I've spent the past 18 months in the bowels of hell, a.k.a. Iraq. As an officer, I've seen a drastic change in most of my soldiers. Sure, they're female-crazy. But you know what? Most of them stay away from the 'hot ditz' persona.

So Vgal, if you read this, please don't kill yourself obsessing over a new rack (excuse the slang). I know a dozen or so guys right now that would kill just to be in your company, and breast size is completely irrelevant. My platoon talks about women extensively--how can you not when you're forced to live in the desert for 18 months without female contact--and you know what? Most of my guys said they'd rather have a women with a flat chest than a woman with big, fake, saline ones. Natural is NICE. Whether it's big, small, non-existent, it doesn't matter. Those characteristics are what make the women we love LOVABLE.



**That totally explains your POV, which is understandable. But how many men are in the military and DESPERATE for females? Sure, a prison inmate would date just about anything since he’s been without female companionship for how long? If you starve a dog long enough he’ll eat sh*t too….. If I was a man would I want a plastic bimbo? No, but for those of us who weren’t blest, we need assistance of a cosmetic kind. What can we do? Seriously if you gave a man the option of having an identical woman but one with an OK body and one with a supermodel physique, guess who'd get chosen? Yes, size DOES matter. It's a fact of life. I accept it. BTW, the fact that your wife is "stacked" doesn't hurt does it?

Your wife is blest to have you Thank you for your insight. I should hope to meet some solidiers who aren't picky and desperate!


Amory, my mother is your shoes. Yeah, how embarrassing must be for her to have her cups runneth over and her daughter's not even filled. But when she loses weight, hers shrink, so maybe once you get down to your goal weight the pain won't be so unbearable? I'm sorry. Too bad we can't take some of yours and transplant it to me. You'd be in less pain and I'd be a woman!

Oh and I know one hot ditz who has a BA and an MA - Bridget from The Girls Next Door. She's one of Hef's girlfriends and she's working on her SECOND master's. Just food for thought.

I realize you aren't going to believe it if you already spent years convincing yourself, but if you sonsider yourself "Little Miss Sluggo" now, you'll get the surgery and see yourself as "Little Miss Sluggo" with a nice rack unless you work on the other issues too. There's always going to be a woman with more of something than you think you have... whether it be breasts, looks, male attention, whatever.

My last little story before I shut up.

My ex-hubby's best friend was engaged to a beautiful model-type with everything in the right places and a perfect face. Everything was fine until the night of the fire... he was home on leave from the Navy for a funeral, and went out with the volunteer fire dept to an oil fire. Lightning had hit a tank, and in the confusion of all the smoke, in the dark, the truck was engulfed in the flames.

He was burned over 80% of his body, and survived, but was terribly scarred. She made an attempt to stick by him, but when the public attention died down, she left for someone "whole". (She's divorced already, but that's another story)

MEanwhile, he was becoming close to one of his nurses at the local clinic, who helped with his physical therapy. He was SO afraid to ask her out, since his scars were so ugly. So he pined away, figuring he'd always have to settle for "just friends" or pity because of the way he looked, and she was a cutie...way out of his league, he figured.

She took the bull by the horns and asked HIM out. They just had their fourth child a couple years ago, and are about to celebrate their 10th anniversary.

Okay... we posted at the same time... so after THIS I'll shut up.

Why would you WANT some man who would look right through you if you weren't perfect?

<shrug>

Some rather good advice and sound opinion being offered here but, allow me to clarify a couple of points, one of which I mentioned. The size of breasts in relation to intelligence came from research carried out probably around 30 years ago. It is not a view to which I subscribe but it is one of those useless bits of information that one never seems to forget. The other point is about marriage. My youngest daughter enjoyed the company of men but whenever a man showed signs of being serious she'd run-a-mile; that was, until the right man came into her sights (a little later in life) when she found that she could not say 'no'. Instead of having a spinster as a daughter I have another happily married one. I know that this daughter never thought she'd get married.

A good measure of the right person is someone who cares and cares deeply about you. When this happens it will be obvious. Men are not put off by a woman's peccadilloes (some more ambitious or astute ones might be but they are best avoided as their interests lie elsewhere), indeed, the opposite is probably truer; it probably stems from our basic instinct like the, "Me Tarzan...you Jane" syndrome! This might not be readily accepted but it still comes across with more than a resounding-tinkle in stable relationships. Pseudo-intellects might wish to think otherwise!

(Potatofree: loved that anecdotal tale; the true romantic story).