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Old Thu, Mar-03-05, 12:10
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Plan: atkins
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I have been reading a lot of stuff about the fat fast lately. The thing that jumps out at me is that it can be dangerous to people who are not metabolically resistant.. What about it is dangerous? I have a friend who is thinking of trying it, and I Want to warn her, but need examples please.
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Old Thu, Mar-03-05, 12:27
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Plan: Atkins
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From what I have heard, if you dont have a hard time losing weight then the weight loss is so rapid and such a great volume that it is dangerous for your body. Personally I have tried it twice to break a stall and jump start things when I needed it. I lose fairly slowly and the first time I did it, I lost 6 lbs in 5 days and the second time I did it was 6 days and 4lb loss. I think it is fine for some people to do. Really all you are doing is upping your fat intake and lowering your calories. I have not gained anything back that I have lost. I have read that some people gain it all back unless they increase very slowly. Is your friend doing Atkins induction?
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Old Thu, Mar-03-05, 12:46
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Yeah, she has been for over a month, and only lost a couple of pounds. Less than me even and I have only lost 8 pounds in a month. (she is around 4 and that was the first 2 weeks, nothing since). what can happen to your body? I have only one kidney, so I am very careful about what I do.
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Old Thu, Mar-03-05, 17:19
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I dont know exactly what can happen but my guess is that because of the rapid weight loss in so little time (if you are not metabolically resistant) it can through your body out of balance. Electrolytes, that sort of thing. I have heard someone on this board lost about 10-12 pounds in a few days doing the fat fast but I have never lost like that doing it. I would guess maybe I am slightly resistant because I have lost about half that amount doing it for 5 and 6 days.
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Old Thu, Mar-03-05, 19:42
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im losing slowly too and im having my thyroid checked. i was told years ago that i needed it checked but didnt
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Old Thu, Mar-03-05, 19:49
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I am thinking about having my thyroid checked when I go for my yearly check up in May. I have some symptoms and would guess that it may be a little out of whack but never had it checked before.
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Old Thu, Mar-03-05, 21:14
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Plan: Human Experimentation
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What is this "fat fast" anyways? What do you do on it?
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Old Thu, Mar-03-05, 21:17
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Check out Atkins.com and search for 'fat fast'. Lots of good info there.
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Old Thu, Mar-03-05, 21:25
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Thanks I will!
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Old Fri, Mar-04-05, 00:26
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I can't find the fat fast thng on atkins.com it comes up with everything with those two words in it which is like 100 million pages to look through?
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Old Fri, Mar-04-05, 00:44
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SAme here, I cannot find it for the life of me!
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Old Fri, Mar-04-05, 01:10
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Plan: Atkins
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I found this on another thread, there were more things but I deleted them because I would not eat them and then realized maybe she would want this list sorry. Anyway I don't really understand some of the things are not a loud in the induction why are they a loud here? Also how does this work I am afraid it will make me gain?


Fat Fast Meal ideas
*One ounce macadamia nuts or macadamia nut butter
*Two ounces cream cheese or Brie
*One ounce of tuna or chicken salad with 2 t mayo served in one quarter of an avocado
*Two devilled eggs made with 2 t mayonnaise

*Two and a half ounces whipped heavy cream

*low carb (5-10 grams) yogurt w/added cream to bring up fats
*1/4 c cream in 8 oz diet soda
*1/4 c cream with diet jello

*1/3 c Almond Accents
*1 T sf peanut butter mixed with 1 oz cream cheese, Splenda or DaVinci to taste
*10 pecans w/ 2 T heavy cream
*1 oz cream cheese mixed with 2 T coconut

*1/3rd of an avocado with 1 T caesar salad dressing


*Cheesecake muffin with some pecans

*0.5 oz feta cheese crumbled, 1/4 avocado diced, and 1 T olive oil, mixed as a salad 227 calories, 92% fat, 2 carbs ECC

Modified Fat Fast Meal ideas
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* 1/2 c Almond Accents 320 cal, 84%
* 1/3 c cream with 4 strawberries and 1 T slivered almonds 332 cal, 90%
* Whole avodcado with 1 T caesar salad dressing - 347 cal, 90% fat
* Whole avocado mashed with 1/3 can tuna - 370 cal, 80% fat
* Same as above, substituting moderate portion of chicken or beef
* Add two eggs to a melted 1.5 tablespoons of butter and scramble. 302 cal, 82% fat
* 2 scrambled eggs, add 1.5 ounces cream cheese when almost done 297, 76%
* 15 pecan halves, 3 tablespoons of cream 301 cal, 93%
* LC cheesecake with no crust (the perfect breakfast!)

* 1 chicken thigh or other protein. Saute spinach to remove moisture, then add 2 tablespoons butter.
* 2 oz cream cheese/10 halves chopped pecans. Make nut balls. 297 cal, 90%
* Caesar salad with chicken or salmon.
* 3 oz cream cheese/1/2 c chopped artichoke heart blend. 339 cal, 80%
* 1/2 c ground beef, 1/2 avocado mashed, and a little sour cream
* Egg salad - 2 lg boiled eggs with 1.5 T mayo 297 cal, 80%
* Custards
* Puddings made with whipping cream and/or sour cream
* Panna Cotta
* Pizza salad - sausage, mozzarella cheese, and lots of veggies

Snack ideas for Modified Fat Fast
* Heaping spoonful of whipped cream (sweetened SF, of course)
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Old Fri, Mar-04-05, 04:23
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Plan: Low carb
Stats: 224.5/155/135 Female 63 inches
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I did the fat fast, followed it to the letter. I lost 5 pounds, kept it off but it wasn't fun at all. At night when I would lay down, I had acid reflux bad - I had to sleep propped up on my pillow. I won't be doing it again anytime soon....
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Old Fri, Mar-04-05, 11:33
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 180/140/130 Female 5'7
BF:22.7%(about)
Progress: 80%
Location: Washington, Tacoma
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How many days did you do it?
I have never had heart burn or anything like that so I don't think I will, is this something you get normally or was it out of the blue?
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Old Fri, Mar-04-05, 12:46
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Plan: Atkins (modified)
Stats: 227/159/140 Female 64 inches
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Location: Charlotte, NC
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The Fat Fast (Atkins)
Counterintuitive as it may sound, if you can't budge the scale on Induction, a few days on this regimen may well allow you to break through metabolic resistance.

Certain individuals are so metabolically resistant that only more intense dietary restrictions prove successful. Once medications, thyroid problems and candida are brought under control, almost all overweight people who diligently adhere to the Atkins Nutritional Approach™ will lose and keep off weight. But for the small group of people for whom it does not work, more extreme measures are necessary.

To help these metabolically resistant people, Dr. Atkins has modified what he calls "the most effective weight-loss eating pattern ever described." British researchers Alan Kekwick and Gaston Pawan developed it, and Frederick Benoit and his team confirmed its superiority in burning off fat, compared to an absolute total fast. This extreme diet consists of 1,000 calories daily, comprised of 90 percent fat. No other weight-loss regimen has matched its ability to burn off stored fat. Dr. Atkins modified the Kekwick diet to make it as enjoyable as possible and dubbed it the "Fat Fast." He tried it on scores of patients and found it often worked for those who were unable to lose weight in any other safe, drug-free way.

The Kekwick diet forces the body into lipolysis so it burns its stores of fat. Lipolysis cannot take place if there is a significant source of glucose. Since all carbohydrates and some protein convert to energy by way of glucose, eliminating almost everything but fat from the diet forces even the most resistant body into lipolysis. That explains the 90 percent dietary-fat component. Lowering the caloric intake accelerates the need to burn up body fat—thus the
1,000-calorie limit.

The Fat Fast is one controlled carb program where you do have to count calories. You'll eat 1,000 calories a day, with 75 percent to 90 percent comprised of fat. Frequent feedings prevent hunger better than three meals a day, so you consume five feedings, perhaps one every four hours, comprising 200 calories
each. Because of the high fat content and frequent feedings, very few people
experience much hunger. The stumbling block for some people is the absence of
conventional meals. But most are willing to stick with it for a few days, even
if the food selections are unfulfilling.

Caution: The Fat Fast is actually dangerous for anyone who is not metabolically resistant. For people who lose weight fairly easily, the rate of weight loss is too rapid to be safe. But it carries very little risk for people who can barely lose on any other regimen.

Step One: Eat Mostly Fat
Begin with five 200-calorie feedings per day and follow for four or five days. Each item equals approximately 200 calories:

*[Note:* 1 ounce is about 25g]

one ounce of macadamia nuts or macadamia nut butter
two ounces of cream cheese or Brie
one ounce of tuna or chicken salad with two teaspoons of mayonnaise served in one-quarter of an avocado
two deviled eggs made with two teaspoons of mayonnaise
two ounces of sour cream and two tablespoons black or red caviar
two and a half ounces whipped heavy cream topped with sucralose zero-calorie syrup
two ounces of pâté (check label for fat content)
two egg yolks (hard-boiled) with one tablespoon of mayonnaise
Step Two: Modify the Fat Fast
If increasing the fat-to-carbohydrate ratio and cutting calories work, any
dietary change in that direction might get the job done. Next, you can try four
meals a day of roughly 300 calories for a total of 1,200 calories. That should
work, too, and what it allows is definitely more appealing to the taste buds:

two ounces of beef chuck (do not drain fat) cooked in two tablespoons of
olive oil
two scrambled eggs with two strips of nitrate-free bacon
two tablespoons of full-fat sour cream with a tablespoon of sugar-free syrup
one-quarter cup chicken or tuna salad made with two tablespoons of mayonnaise
three ounces of pâté (check label for fat content)
one-and-a-half ounces of macadamia nuts
Step Three: Return to Induction
Try the 1,200-calorie regimen for a week, then go back to Induction. Or simply follow the concept of increasing the ratio of fat to protein. No one should have to feel that losing weight is hopeless. Sometimes the key to achieving your goal weight permanently is quite difficult to adhere to, but rarely is it simply impossible.
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