Good deal Ice fire!!!

Jag

Oh, man!
I'm so happy to see this thread.
After eating beaucoop "safe" chocolate and other flavored "net carb" bars duting my last TOM, I am now safely back in induction. That stuff threw my body for a loop--I was craving everything but the stuff I need to eat, and I put back on a few of the nearly 50 lbs. I've lost since October. I really appreciate such honest and candid info on this board!
Carmen

Is Spenda a sugar alcohol to avoid too??

No, Splenda is sucrose that's been altered so that it's not absorbed. The carbs in Splenda come from a different source: maltodextrin, which is used to bulk it up. If you can get Splenda in liquid form, which is difficult in the US, it's carb free.

Excellent article. A wake up call every newbie needs before they go out and stock up on bars and shakes for induction.

Great Thread. I have been addicted to these stupid Carb Smart Ice Cream bars, allowing myself one per day. My cravings for carbs have definitely increased since I discovered these things. I am going to cut them out and see if I have any progress. Thanks guys.

Have you guys tried the ZCarb Chocolate bar which claims to have 0 sugar alcohol, minimal carb and uses splenda? I hope that nutritional info that they offer is correct. I think it's the best choice for a "treat." I ate one today and didn't feel a spike in my bloodsugar.

Although I am new, I have read quite a bit about the Atkins WOE. I also find it very interesting that the views on sugar alchohols has changed dramatically since the induction of new LC foods in the market. I feel that if you have to cheat then SAs are the way to go. Yes it sucks that some can handle them and others can't. But its the same with anything. some people can eat a pint of ice cream or a whole pizza and not gain an ounce. While others gain 5 pounds instantly. I for one feel that a clean induction is going to be the key in my weight loss journey. That means few to none SAs.

Bethany

ZCarb is sweetened with non-caloric sugar alcohols (erythritol) and splenda. It is one of the few bars out there which is telling the truth about its carb contents.

does anyone know of pria bars and the first ingredient is maltitol syrup? what are your experiences with them?

Does this sound safe?

Safety (MSDS) data for erythritol

General
Synonyms: meso-erythritol, erythrol, phycitol
Molecular formula: C4H10O4
CAS No: 149-32-6
EC No:
Physical data
Appearance: white crystals or powder
Melting point: 122 C
Boiling point: 330 C
Vapour density:
Vapour pressure:
Density (g cm-3): 1.45
Flash point:
Explosion limits:
Autoignition temperature:
Water solubility: appreciable

Stability
Stable. Incompatible with strong oxidizing agents.
Toxicology
May act as an irritant.
Toxicity data
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IPR-MUS LDLO 2000 mg kg-1

Risk phrases
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Transport information
Non-hazardous for air, sea and road freight.
Personal protection
Do not breathe dust.
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IF YOU CANNOT BREATHE THE DUST WHY WOULD YOU EAT IT?

Jag

Maltitol is a sugar alcohol.
Jag

Love it!


Jag, did you write the review that started this thread? Excellent job!

I too found the article about counting sugar alcohols and am very thankful I did. I had been eating the chocolates as treats nearly everyday and wasn't able to get into ketosis, and was having big problems w/ cravings. After reading that article, I decided to cut the SA's and have had no problem w/ cravings or being in ketosis since.

Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention. We'll have to keep this thread up and running so everyone gets a chance to benefit from this information.

Thanks for posting the article.

On the same website, I found an article dealing with ketosis which included the following quote:


"Ketosis may not be burning body fat! Sorry to say, but true. If you're eating a very high level of dietary fat, your body may not be using any body fat for energy if it's meeting its energy requirement from the fat you're eating."

I thought that in the absence of carbs, the body is resistant to using dietary fat over body fat for energy?

Also, I understand the connection between counting all carbs - low glycemic or not - but can we assume that we don't have to count the lowest GI and GL foods one for one? In other words, is there a "carb discount" when consuming these foods?

Does science even know how to account for that?

Barefoot

Even water is toxic in high enough concentrations.