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Old Thu, Oct-18-01, 05:12
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Hello

I have another problem:

I am reading Protein Power at the moment. I have just worked out my lean body weight, and my Ideal weight.

According to PP my ideal weight is 155.5 - 168 lbs. This is more than my starting weight
I am only 5' 2" and I would like to wear a size 10 (UK size = size 2 in GAP).
I used to be size 6-8 (UK - size 1 at GAP)

If I go up to these kind of pounds, I'd be rolling through the door.

Did I do anything wrong ? Or is this book more for people with an apple shape ??
The thing which struck me most, was the fact, that the weight to hip ratio seems to be a big thing. Well, my waist-to-hip was allways good. Remember, I am the original Thunderthighs ! Whenever I lost weight, I used to lose it first on the waist. So on a low-cal diet, I ended up with a size 6 waist, and size 14 hips. Made me look even fatter !!. In this diet, I seem to lose the fat from the hips, more than the waist ( finally, I was worried if I would turn into a size 4 waist... ), so actually my waist-hip-ratio is getting worse (according to the book). Due to that, my other stats seem to be weird. Maybe I didn't do the calculations right ??

Here you are:

Waist: 38 inch
Hip: 40 inch
Height: 62.99 inch

what do you come up with ??

Greetings
Sabine
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Old Thu, Oct-18-01, 12:57
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What did you come up with for lean body weight?

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Old Thu, Oct-18-01, 13:01
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Hmm, thanks Europoz, but I did those measurements 3 times.

Karen: the Lean Body Weight came up as 124 lbs. I would like to go down to 110-114 lbs

I am not sure if I can trust this thing

I allways used to weigh between 102 and 105 lbs. And that was during my time as a swimmer. If anything, I have less muscle now rather than more ( confession: I hate excercise with a vengeance )
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Old Thu, Oct-18-01, 13:08
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You could have got the constants for the hips, abdomen and height mixed up?

Try it again. I don’t want to deprive you of the “aha” moment!

You will be pleased!

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Old Fri, Oct-19-01, 07:08
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Right. I tried it again, but still the same

I think I stay with Atkins, but take some of the stuff from PP into account. It is really good to read. It explains a lot more about how it all works and gives a lot more information about supplements and how to plan meals ( I don't think I will ever be able to do it, but I may give it a try).

I also like the section about gradually increasing the carbs. Will definitly go for that one, and I like the lists of foods in portions which contain exactly (-ish) a certain amount of carbs.

Maybe PP is more for people with an apple-shape rather than Thunderthighs ?
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Old Fri, Oct-19-01, 10:30
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OK Sabine. Have a look at these calculations. Go through "how to" in PP again and you'll find where you've gone wrong. I know it's confusing. It took a lot of concentration when I first did it for myself.

So, I'll go ahead and make your day!

Waist - 38"....................Constant 27.02
Hips - 40"......................Constant 47.44
Height - 63"...................Constant 38.4

Add waist and hips:

27.02 +47.44 = 74.46

Subract height to get BF %:

74.46 - 38.4 = 36% (rounded off)

Calculate LBM
Total Weight x % of Body Fat:

129.5 x .36 = 46.2

Total weight - Fat weight:

129.5 - 46.2 = 83.3

Ideal Range for BF % ( I assumed you were under 30)

20-28%

Subract these % individually from 100:

80 - 74

Divide lean body weight by each:

83.3 / 80 = 104
83.3 / 74 = 125

Your ideal weight range is between 104 - 125 pounds.


My bill is in the mail!

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Old Fri, Oct-19-01, 10:42
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Karen you are the best ! Silly me. I substraced the height in inches, not the constant



I could send you some german biscuits for it ( food parcel from my nan arrived today), but they are the opposite of LC, so I better leave it
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Old Fri, Oct-19-01, 14:02
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As I said, it can be a bit confusing.

So, what are you going to do with those biscuits? Feed them to BF?

God bless nanas!

Karen
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Old Fri, Oct-19-01, 14:34
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My daughter saw them, and half of them have already vanished

They are propably not too bad, they contain mainly nuts, but they are chocolate coated and have some sugar in them ( the more expensive they are, the less flour and sugar they contain. The really expensive ones - we are talking about US$4 per biscuit here - are 90% nuts, a little bit of flour and sugar and coated in bitter-chocolate. Will have to ask dad to send those for x-mas )
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Default LBM / BF% - what is 'constant'?

Karen, I saw the formula you wrote in this thread above, but I have no idea how you got 27.02 as a 'constant' for 38" waist -- because I haven't got any idea what a 'constant' is. If you could fill me in on that little detail, I think I might be able to figure something out! Thanks.

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Old Sun, Jan-06-02, 12:31
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In Protein Power, there is a chart of constants that you use in the calculation of lean body mass. If you have the book, it's in the Assesing Your Risk Chapter.

It's a great excercise to go through.

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Old Mon, Jan-07-02, 12:33
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:madpaino!!(nice name)
hi you say you have thunder thighs-- No You Don"t, I am the queen of THUNDER THighs, i started to gained weight in 1999
i went from 170 to 265 in less than 2 years.

my current measurement is

waist 31"

thighs 52"

bust 38c

but i am working on these thighs and so far they are looking good , so i think we are apples not pears gotta go smell something BURNING.(check out my nickname at work klutzylady)
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