Thanks have been looking at this I may just be slow at the replenish thing, below is a paste from my journal March 21.

Still looking at this glycogen depletion thing, trying to make best use of what available information will help me or not. One item of concern is the time to replenish on low carb, this statement of "longer than one week" in the following article concerns me:

http://www.sagewoodwellness.com/Doc0006.htm

from Steve Cooksey's 30 day experiment of nearly Zero Carb eating: (1st week at LOW, LOW, LOW carb eating....)


30 day experiment

PilotGal,

Not sure what to make of Steve's ability on his 1st week of low carb, he maybe just better adapted to LC by design??

Not wanting to cause confusion, I should have worded my comment differently such as:



I did some more reading on this last night, it seems some people are just more suited too this I guess. Low carb works for me, just not with a lot of frequent recurring activity.

Looks like your doing well,
Joel

In my attempt to increase carbs to break a stall, did I do it wrong? Please critique my April 1st food entry list. Thanks.

If you mean April 2, then I see 13 net carbs and less than 1200 calories. This is you increasing your intake?

I don't know how many calories I eat, but I estimate between 50-100 carbs per day, sometimes more and sometimes less. I tried Bernstein's 30 carbs a day or less when I was first diagnosed with diabetes and I hated it. I'm also going by the admonition from some old hands that what you eat to lose is what you will have to continue eating to maintain, and I know that there's no way I will continue to eat what I consider to be very low carb the rest of my life.

what i was pointing out is that whether you carb up the day before heavy lifting, or you stick to Zero Carb..
there is no difference in stamina, endurance, movement, exhaustion...
as some people report.
there is no need to carb up, is what Steve is pointing out..
it gets tiresome for many.. to read that Zero Carb is not healthy-long term, when man began as Zero Carb and he was a pretty healthy specimen....

as facts prove.

I bolded your words as that has been my experience too.
I still eat the same way I did to lose it. I use all of the phases of my food plan to manage my weight.
Because I weigh regularly, the info allows me to make choices for the day( how many portions of starches I will allow) depending on the info I got from my scale.
I too know that I would never want to eat a very low carb diet for life as it just doesn't work for me at all on a few levels.
We each need to do what works best for us as individuals...know thyself!

Those old hands are clearly not following Atkins nor drawing on the experience of the majority of forum members. Atkins' plan requires you to gradually add carbohydrates (from veggies, at first, then legumes) during weight loss until you find the amount you can eat and still lose weight. I've read about people who experiment with this technique and find that they can tolerate 50-70 g of carbs daily, including sweet potatoes, beans, and peanut butter. Personally, I need a bowl of chili w/ beans the night before my weightlifting workouts; otherwise, I peter out midway through them.

It seems as if you've loosened your food restrictions over time, and that's as it should be.

AJ,
I think that is exactly what was meant. Staying at Induction until goal doesn't give a person much leeway.
Gradually adding in carbs was what I did during my weight loss.
I'd keep pushing them in to see if I'd still lose. You could say that I pushed the envelope on my allowable carbs while in weight loss mode.

My April 1st entry is not showing up in the monthly view. I ingested 121 carbs on April 1st and 1128 calories.

Please just list here what you ate that day that added up to 121 carbs. I'd like to see it so that I can try to help you.

OK, I just took a look. Looks like you went for a chinese food buffett for lunch? Those carbs do add up like that.
What is it that you're trying accomplish? I know that you want to lose weight. Did you want to eat that many carbs(84) in one meal?

I'm also going by the admonition from some old hands that what you eat to lose is what you will have to continue eating to maintain, and I know that there's no way I will continue to eat what I consider to be very low carb the rest of my life.



Not surprising you'd say that since you were one of the wise women I was referring to.

Despite my best efforts in the past to convince myself I wasn't on a diet but was changing my way of eating for life, I can see the difference this time when I know I have to and am changing my food habits for life. Dr. Bernstein's 30/carbs a day may be ideal for diabetes but for me it's a case of "perfect is the enemy of good".

Yes, Chinese lunch, and I was trying to break a stall. Luckily it didn't do any more damage than it did.

Should I have eaten twice that many carbs? Or should I have added CALORIES (not carbs) to break a stall?

OH! THanks!


Yes, I hear you on that! That is why I never did get into counting carbs.
I have issues with being controlled. I'm a bit of a free spirit that way and needed to find my own way. Thats whay I started out doing SBD and it morphed into a hybrid of Atkins and SBD.
"Progress not Perfection" an old OA saying!

No, you did fine with what you ate.
Are you truly stalled, has it been 6-8 weeks with no loss?

Have you read the part of Atkins that talks about phase II, Ongoing weightloss?

When you add in carbs, there is an order to it with starchy veggies coming first.

If you are interested in carb cycling, there is a thread about it here somewhere. I'll try to find it for you.