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Old Thu, Dec-12-19, 06:29
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Default Beware of OTC meds: what I learned

Passing this on because it's fairly shocking: when a medication moves to OTC (over the counter) they don't list possible side effects any more. Granted, there are warnings on the box, and those were serious enough that I checked online.

I'm throwing the Flonase away.

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What Are the Downsides to Your Nasal Spray?

A steroid nasal spray like Flonase can combat congestion and other allergy symptoms, but it may also lead to cataracts or changes in the sense of smell.


All I have is a stuffy nose! And the generic sudafed behind the counter at my pharmacy is fine, and I don't even use that any more.

I went to the doctor because a dry hacking cough was keeping me from sleeping, and I was so exhausted I was getting my autoimmune symptoms back. I got a miniscule amount of what I know works from the year I had FOUR sinus infections in a row, and this Flonase.

I was already alerted because it was a steroid medication. I learned I was risking a LOT more than a stuffy nose, like:

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That said, such drugs are not without drawbacks. The official prescribing information for Flonase before it went OTC included reactions such as headache, sore throat, nosebleeds and cough. Also included were: alteration or loss of sense of taste and/or smell, nasal septal perforation, glaucoma, increased intraocular pressure and cataracts, among other problems.


Would you risk permanent damage to the senses for a stuffy nose?

Now my wariness has increased, and it was already at a paranoid level.
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Old Thu, Dec-12-19, 07:33
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The only OTC that I use is an antihistamine during the spring/summer for pollen allergies. I've not been able to find any reported major problems caused by them.
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Old Thu, Dec-12-19, 08:09
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Neti pot with saline/baking soda water is an ancient remedy. Xylitol added works well too.

There is a nasal spray, xlear, that is nothing but saline water, xylitol and grapefruit seed extract (for a preservative). You can get this at many drug stores.

For me the added xylitol makes a big difference.

Bob
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Old Thu, Dec-12-19, 08:47
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Thanks all. I'm okay. Have decongestant and got some cough syrup which I've taken before without incident. But this stuff sits in the grocery store and you KNOW no one is reading the box!
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Old Thu, Dec-12-19, 08:58
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In response to this thread about side effects of taking OTC meds, I just HAD to post a link to this YouTube video.... Progenitorivox - The Drugs I need.


The song is by a country/bluegrass/folk band called the Austin Lounge Lizards that I've been listening to since the mid 80s. Enjoy... and share it with friends who might need to hear the message.

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Old Thu, Dec-12-19, 10:20
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Thanks for posting. Thought flonase was non-steroidal. Despirte conversations with doctor, sheesh
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Old Thu, Dec-12-19, 12:19
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Last year I had congestion so I went to the store and roamed up and down the isle. What I found out after buying Robitussin DM which use to work and I would cough it up was that it didn't work anymore.

Apparently they removed whatever ingredient in it that use to work because drug attics are getting high off of it. So then I tried other products and they were ALL timed release. Again, it's so druggies can't get high from it because it's timed released it' no use to them. The Walgreens brand "Mucus Releaf which is Guaifensin/expectorant was the worst. Well, on the third day it wasn't working at all. Then my lungs started feeling like they were hurting and burning from these meds, like they were on fire....So I stopped taking it.

About that time I started taking the Iodine. I was happily in shock that the iodine was helping me cough up all of the flem. It worked like magic!!
So I began reading my iodine book and apparently in France they have used Iodine for centuries to clear up lungs, even curing phenomena.
The first thing that starts happening is that it thins the mucus and you begin sneezing it out. Then you start coughing it up.

It was like Magic, I kid you not!!

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Old Wed, Jan-15-20, 08:02
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About that time I started taking the Iodine. I was happily in shock that the iodine was helping me cough up all of the flem. It worked like magic!! So I began reading my iodine book and apparently in France they have used Iodine for centuries to clear up lungs, even curing phenomena.
The first thing that starts happening is that it thins the mucus and you begin sneezing it out. Then you start coughing it up.

It was like Magic, I kid you not!!

How much iodine did you take, and how often? I've had post-nasal drip most of my life that has me constantly coughing and clearing my throat. Recently I got the bad cold that was going around. It's now gone, but the phlegm is now worse than ever. If I can clear this up with iodine, I'd be thrilled!

EDITED TO ADD: Never mind! When I saw your post I immediately responded with the quote. Then I read further in the thread and found my answer. Thanks!
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Old Thu, Dec-12-19, 13:10
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I'm lucky. Since I went Keto I don't get sick.

I do irrigate with xlear, as it keeps my nasal passages clear (I broke my nose as a kid) and if you believe the blurb on it, the xylitol keep the cold germs from attaching to your mucus membranes.

I rarely need any OTC med at all. A small bottle of ibuprofen will last me years.

Like any medicine, I would suspect the smallest dose necessary of any OTC med would be the dose to shoot for.

Bob
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Old Thu, Dec-12-19, 13:28
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I've got extra challenges. Worn out before I figured out how to help myself, baffling trek to uncover my rare genetic condition, husband with his own chronic condition so I have all the errands and a full time job plus keeping our small business afloat.
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Old Thu, Dec-12-19, 13:41
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I've got extra challenges. Worn out before I figured out how to help myself, baffling trek to uncover my rare genetic condition, husband with his own chronic condition so I have all the errands and a full time job plus keeping our small business afloat.


Wearbear, I'm sorry you're going through this.
Take care of yourself first than the rest will be taken care of in due time.
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Old Thu, Dec-12-19, 15:08
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Wearbear, I'm sorry you're going through this.
Take care of yourself first than the rest will be taken care of in due time.

Thanks. I've taken a couple of days off to rest. And I've been taking iodine!
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Old Thu, Dec-12-19, 15:51
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Thanks. I've taken a couple of days off to rest. And I've been taking iodine!


For me, it's got so many benefits. My body temp went back up closer to normal, I could feel the difference in energy when I got lax in taking it for a couple of weeks. But the biggest thing I see is clearing out my lungs. It's immediate for me as soon as it absorbs, I guess. I always take it with Selenium which is said to make the Iodine work better so even though I probably get enough I still take it then.
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Old Fri, Dec-13-19, 07:51
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Originally Posted by Meme#1
For me, it's got so many benefits. My body temp went back up closer to normal, I could feel the difference in energy when I got lax in taking it for a couple of weeks. But the biggest thing I see is clearing out my lungs. It's immediate for me as soon as it absorbs, I guess. I always take it with Selenium which is said to make the Iodine work better so even though I probably get enough I still take it then.
What type of iodine are you taking and how much at a time?
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Old Fri, Dec-13-19, 09:47
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Wearbear. This is the most stressful time of year and here is a little releif. Works everytime.Breath in thru nose, and say "I am...." then exhale thru mouth and say ,"peace....."

I use this ALOT.
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