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Old Sun, Feb-17-19, 07:11
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Plan: Atkins/General LC
Stats: 240.0/167.2/155 Female 5 '9"
BF:36/29.5/25
Progress: 86%
Default Can we skip the constipation?

Last year starting in February, I had diarrhea. For a while, it was the kind where I slept in Depends. Then it was just watery.

No pain or anything. Just liquid.


Tried everything (yes, probiotics, too), nothing worked.

Finally saw a gastroenterologist in July for something else, and the diarrhea became part of what he was trying to fix. Endoscopy? Nothing. Colonoscopy? Couldn't find a cause.... but it STOPPED right after!

That was November.

Last month, I had The Ear Infection from HEEEEEeeeeeeeeck (TM) (insert bad horror movie soundtrack here). It took 4 antibiotics (3 at the same time) to kill that #*&~ infection. Digestive track went off the rails again. Picked up some good probiotics (which unfortunately contain some potato starch, but don't seem to throw me off too bad)


So that stabilized, and now I seem to have the"Low carb curse" -- constipation.

Really? Can we just NOT, please?

*sigh*

Adding more CO to my daily diet, and started taking a softener.

"Love" how most advice says
  • "Eat more fiber" (Nope -- fiber backs me up)
  • "Get more exercise" (Wanna SEE my gym schedule for the past 2 weeks!?!)
  • "Drink more water" (I start my morning with a 32 oz glass of water, and drink more from there
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Old Sun, Feb-17-19, 10:24
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Plan: P:E/DDF
Stats: 225/150/169 Female 5' 9"
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Progress: 134%
Location: NC
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First: More Salt! You need the salt to keep the water you do drink in your bowel.

More ideas here: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb...ts#constipation

And if all fails, post #4 here:
https://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=477356

Skip the fiber, back to more Salt and water: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y0_d88NYzc
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Old Sun, Feb-17-19, 10:28
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Plan: Very LC, Higher Protein
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LiterateGr - Considering that we all respond differently to what we eat, are you taking a magnesium supplement? Magnesium is one of the more common minerals with which people have a deficit. Given the over-farming of soil, many of the magnesium-rich vegetables we consumed in the past no longer provide what is required. I would consider supplementing with magnesium if you're not already doing so. Make sure you choose a highly recommended type like chelated magnesium glycinate (glycinate lysinate chelate) or some forms of citrate. Also, salt and potassium sources can help in this area as well. Easy to get salt, and my love for avocados gives me plenty of potassium. Good luck.
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Old Sun, Feb-17-19, 11:16
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My DD found that she wasn't having results with the Mag Citrate pills that I bought for her so she bought the liquid form and it worked really fast.
What I've read is that it works because of what is not absorbed by the body, causing it to be excreted by the body and voila BM.
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Old Mon, Feb-18-19, 06:29
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Plan: Atkins/General LC
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More salt -- yes, Ma'am!

For various reasons about to begin another fast today, and that always involves lots of salt-ingestion. (I usually do it in the form of a sugar-free bouillon powder. However, I started adding som "No-salt" (the half-and-half version) to that, as a source of potassium.)

Yesterday, we sat around making peanut butter. I was stirring in salt, at the end, and commented after-the-fact that we should have used the "half-salt" for that reason... Which means I'm thinking about the fact we have it, now, which means the odds of actually adding it to my food have vastly improved.

Last edited by LiterateGr : Mon, Feb-18-19 at 07:44. Reason: Punctuation
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Old Mon, Feb-18-19, 07:22
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Plan: KetoCarnivore
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Enemas are salt...
Salt will definitely clean you out.
I make a salty lemonade reminiscent of margaritas...
Sweet (stevia) and salty... couple of those and you’re clean as a wink.
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Old Mon, Feb-18-19, 08:22
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Had a convo with Hubby, after reading this, this morning, about salt. (We both tend to forget salt when cooking, and we've been cooking at home almost exclusively.)

Suggested I need to buy some more Seaweed Snacks, to help with that, too. (Salty goodness, trace-nutrients that are less common in our diets, relatively high fat (because they usually have sesame oil added), and perfectly on plan. Everyone in the house loves them, but they fell off the shopping list about a year ago, after we got some bad ones.)

Hubby is just starting LC, and tends to get the munchies, so that'll be good for him on multiple levels.
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Old Mon, Feb-18-19, 09:55
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Plan: EpiPaleo/Primal/LowOx
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I also recommend GutSense.org.

Everything he says was true for me, and an already good situation actually improved.
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Old Mon, Feb-18-19, 12:06
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I also recommend GutSense.org.

Everything he says was true for me, and an already good situation actually improved.


This is an excellent web-site and the only one that confirmed what I had discovered on my own, the hard way....
I just don't understand why GI doctors can't learn this??
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Old Mon, Feb-18-19, 12:55
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Originally Posted by Meme#1
This is an excellent web-site and the only one that confirmed what I had discovered on my own, the hard way....
I just don't understand why GI doctors can't learn this??


Because, and I know this is bizarre, they haven't been trained to actually fix the problem. All of their training is aimed at them performing the Standard of Care for their specialty.

For digestion, the Standard of Care says:
  • patients have to eat high carb, low fat, and lots of fiber
  • the way to treat any issue is test and prescribe
  • if patients don't improve, it's not your fault

This is not so bad for a serious condition, which is usually detected and has some reasoning behind it. But the run-up to the serious condition? They are not trained to detect and avoid that.

So, they don't.
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Old Mon, Feb-18-19, 13:03
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I know it's all on the web-site but I did buy the book a while back, just to have in my hand which I love so I don't have to get on the computer again...

Did you read about the origin of all of this misinformation started by Kellogg? HA and thus the empire began of livestock feed being fed to humans.
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Old Mon, Feb-18-19, 14:35
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Originally Posted by Meme#1
I know it's all on the web-site but I did buy the book a while back, just to have in my hand which I love so I don't have to get on the computer again...

Did you read about the origin of all of this misinformation started by Kellogg? HA and thus the empire began of livestock feed being fed to humans.


I don’t have the book, but seem to remember reading it. Didn’t Kellogg want to destroy the libido?
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Old Mon, Feb-18-19, 14:54
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Graham crackers, "Grunola" and corn flake, all intended to prevent the degeneration of teenage boys. Ornish and McDougall still boast that their diet will carry nasty testosterone out of the body...
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Old Mon, Feb-18-19, 14:59
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And red meat was supposed to heat up the blood and lead to the reverse.

Zinc deficiency has been shown to greatly reduce testosterone levels...low meat, high phytic acid grain foods might actually work.
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Old Mon, Feb-18-19, 15:04
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And red meat was supposed to heat up the blood and lead to the reverse.

Zinc deficiency has been shown to greatly reduce testosterone levels...low meat, high phytic acid grain foods might actually work.


I posted a Tuit Nutrition article about male PCOS in the media section that explains how it happens, in fact.
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