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Old Sun, Sep-24-23, 05:06
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We're all trapped in culture, and it helps to know what and how much


Absolutely, not only are we all trapped in culture and is it important to becomes aware of how much this is true, it is also inevitable that some of our culturally bound assumptions are so ingrained that we are incapable of being aware of them. But still we need to put in the effort to examine our strongly held beliefs in order to weed out, as much as is possible, those that are not only untrue but also detrimental to our well being.
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Old Sun, Sep-24-23, 05:27
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Coming back to add that it sounds like slowing stomach emptying turning into chronic constipation would likely not be the only "downstream effect." If I may pun a bit.

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Semaglutide belongs to a class of medications known as glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1) receptor agonists. It mimics the GLP-1 hormone that is released in the gastrointestinal tract in response to eating. One role of GLP-1 is to prompt the body to produce more insulin, which reduces blood glucose (sugar).

May 31, 2023 FDA


Our brains, kidneys, and lungs have these same receptors, maybe more organs. What happens when that gets slowed down? Why do our lungs need to know if our stomachs are full? To me, that's a sign it's a full body medication. Look at what is being distorted here: it's sending the signal that we GOT a full meal. To our whole body. Only, that's a lie.

The drug users restrict themselves to easily digested and processed foods with low nutritional content. They can eat their favorite foods and stop earlier. That's the "magic." I do not discount any nausea, which is the worst way to lose.

This drug is clumsily trying to convince our bodies to believe a lie. That's bad for brains and the bodies they are in. Especially since suppressing the action of a fundamental life process -- like statins, proton pump inhibitors, and immune suppressants do -- is likewise a fundamentally wrong approach.

Medicine is not supposed to be in the symptom suppression business, but that's what we've got when it comes to chronic illness. That might make this particular drug one designed to get people looking better on lab tests and feeling the intoxicating effects of weight loss without crazed hunger. That lets people put up with digestive issues which -- alone -- were not enough to derail them from industrialized eating. We have rampant digestive issues among the populace, and they get drugs instead of useful advice about eating, much too many times.

So yes. It's scary. People are hooked on the UPF and this is the maintenance drug. Because the UPF side effect which counts most is how it makes us gain weight. Bariatric surgery without the surgery. But that doesn't mean side effects that won't go away. Today's drugs can leave permanent effects with no black box label warning anyone.

If they say "if this happens call your doctor" it's not nearly as mild as it sounds. It means a certain percentage of people won't realize it's actually a sign of possible emergency, and it might already be too late.
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Chris Palmer MD reported another side effect…Mental Health problems. The FDA hasn’t issued warnings…monitoring the situation 🙄
As Ozempic use grows, so do reports of possible mental health side effects
https://www.npr.org/sections/health...th-side-effects
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If they are eating less of their usual junk food diet, they are getting even less of the most important nutrients. That alone might have an effect, the B vitamins being the most crucial for the nervous system.

But the brain is getting the same "slow stomach emptying" signal, and what is it making of that information? Especially when they aren't finding the other things the signal process would normally have ready for them.

My mental functions improved with increased protein and fat. These are the building materials to build hormones. The plant based foods are classed UPF 4 on the scale. It's the vegans eating the most junk food, and now, with vegan bakeries, I believe the dream is complete.

But no way is it healthy.
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