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Old Wed, Jan-17-07, 14:45
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Old Wed, Jan-17-07, 16:10
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I'm surprised by how long it's taking people to catch on to this. Even well-respected, academically-based weight loss programs have yet to recommend anything besides increasing amounts of steady-state cardio. And I never see anyone else at the gym sprinting like a madman like I do.
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Old Wed, Jan-17-07, 17:29
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Excellent point Gazelle..and what perplexes me even more is that people who do steady state aerobics complain that they never see the results from all their effort.

If someone is watching Tv or reading a book while doing their "Cardio" then they are not working out hard enough or are not focused on their workout.
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Old Wed, Jan-17-07, 17:45
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Hmm...I tried to click on the link but I guess I need a subscription. Is HIIT basically the up & down in intensity workouts? I think I've seen it explained somewhere before.
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Old Wed, Jan-17-07, 18:35
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I think that this is the one...I'm just starting to train and am finding this very interesting. Thanks!


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Interval training gains in popularity
Once the domain of elite athletes, high-intensity fitness has gone mainstream.
January 15, 2007


For years, Michelle Cuellar exercised five days a week. "But you wouldn't have known it by looking at me," says the 33-year-old mother of two. "I felt fit — but I was still fat."

No matter what Cuellar did — run on the treadmill for 30 minutes at a time or attend the occasional spinning class or boot camp, her weight rose. By last summer, she carried 176 pounds on her 5-foot-6 frame.

ADVERTISEMENTThen, last fall, for the first time in her life, Cuellar started shrinking. She tried on a pair of pants "that hadn't fit since 1998 — and they fit!" she says. "In eight weeks, 5 inches came off my butt, 2 inches off my stomach. The weight — 7, 9, 12 pounds — just started falling off."

Her breakthrough? "I started doing intervals," says the Centennial, Colo., woman.

Intervals — short bursts of speed mixed into a running, biking, swimming, elliptical, rowing or other aerobic workout — are nothing new for organized sports, where they've long been a tried-and-true method to build speed and power. What's new is that high-intensity interval training is being discovered by average people, who like the speed but love the side effects even more: weight loss, muscle toning and reduced workout time.

"Interval training is hot right now and getting hotter," says Joseph Grassadonia, publisher of Santa Cruz-based OnFitness magazine, which is targeted at personal trainers. "It's always been there, but we are writing more and more about it because it's simply the fastest way to get clients fit."

Cuellar says she trimmed 10 minutes from her workout time simply by replacing her old steady-state 30-minute, 6-mph treadmill jog with "Sprint 8," a 20-minute aerobic session peppered with eight 30-second, 8-mph sprints so intense that they left her gasping for breath.

Sprint 8, the centerpiece of the book "Ready Set Go! Synergy Fitness," by Phil Campbell, has a growing list of believers. Gary Green, 45, a Web-based businessman from Tustin, says he halved his workout time and cycled off 25 pounds since switching to the program in August. Internet marketer Robert Burns of San Diego, 43, says he lost 25 pounds since May doing three swimming or running Sprint 8 workouts a week. "I feel younger and get faster and faster every day," he said.

They warn, however, that interval training is not a walk in the park. "At first, I could barely sprint at 5 mph," said 31-year-old Dan Conner, a Sacramento fitness store manager who lost 50 of his 265 pounds and 9 inches off his 45-inch waist since last May. "I was dying. I couldn't breathe. But now my sprints are up to 7 mph — sometimes 8. They leave me gasping. I know that a lot of people don't want to push like this."

How intervals work

The key to improving one's level of fitness, trainers and sports scientists say, is shocking yourself.

"After a certain period of plodding along, doing the same steady-state jogging and cycling, you don't progress — your body gets used to what you're doing," says Christopher Drozd, a Santa Monica strength and conditioning coach. "You have to literally shock your body off the plateau. If you push yourself to the limit [with intervals], you're going to get a new limit."

The phenomenon is known as the "stress adaptation response," says Leonard A. Kaminsky, director of the clinical exercise physiology program at the Ball State University human performance lab and editor of the exercise guidelines manual of the American College of Sports Medicine.

"The human body adapts to the stresses placed on it," he says. "Challenge it, and it improves. To effect change, you need to overload your system beyond what it is accustomed to. When you go beyond your aerobic threshold [the point at which you are unable to bring in enough oxygen to support the exercise] — to where you perceive that you're getting winded — you initiate a chain of positive events that work for everyone. Even nursing-home populations can improve."

Intervals improve fitness by upgrading the oxygen-processing system with new capillaries and stronger lungs and heart, adding more mitochondria (tiny cellular motors) to muscles, and developing a higher tolerance to the buildup of lactic acid, a waste product associated with going anaerobic (into oxygen-debt). A 2005 study of competitive cyclists at New Zealand's Waikato Institute of Technology even found that intervals can speed up serious athletes in midseason form; eight to 12 sessions gave test subjects power gains of 8.7% for 1 kilometer and 8.1% for 4 kilometers over a control group of non-interval trainers.

But it is the unexpected weight loss, time savings and sense of "feeling younger" that have average exercisers most excited.

The latter may partially come from a temporary increase in the release of human growth hormone, which radically declines with age. A 2002 University of North Carolina at Greensboro study published in Sports Medicine found that all exercise, both aerobic and strength training, stimulates the release of the hormone, and that greater exercise intensity — as in interval training — stimulates greater release. Human growth hormone is known for many positive effects, including development of lean muscle mass.

Intervals' time-saving effect was documented in a 2006 study published in the Journal of Physiology. The test found equal increases in fitness between six short bouts of interval training over two weeks (20-minute cycling workouts, consisting of repetitive 30-second all-out efforts each followed by four minutes of recovery) and six longer, moderate-paced sessions (90 to 120 minutes a day) over two weeks.

Interval-spawned weight loss, surprisingly, does not mostly come from the interval training itself (intervals use fast-burning glycogen, not slow-burning fat, as fuel), but from its long-known aftereffect: It ramps up the metabolism.

Back in 1985, a study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found that high-intensity training ramps up metabolism for 24 hours afterward, whereas low-intensity training does not. A 1991 study in the International Journal of Obesity found that more exercise intensity, not more duration, provoked increased post-exercise oxygen consumption. And a study published in December in the Journal of Applied Physiology and conducted by a team at Canada's University of Guelph found that just two weeks of alternate-day interval training increased moderately active 22-year-old women's fat-burning ability by 36%.


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Old Wed, Jan-17-07, 18:58
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The beauty of this is that it you don't have to kill yourself off the bat.

You can start off for as little as 4 minutes a day 3x's a week..you can then add a minute per week til you've worked up to doing 15 minutes for 3x's a week.

If you work up to that along with weight lifting, I guarentee that you will be in shape.

And it can be as simple as very fast walking..then regular walking,then very fast walking..or do the same on a stationary bike.

I run bleachers..my interval is running up bleachers,then walking down them, running up, walking down.


It is a superior system to burn fat. Period.
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Old Sat, Jan-20-07, 07:37
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I'm reviving this thread. I was a bit distracted this past week and missed it somehow! But this has been an interest of mine for months now.

I can definitely see the "old school" (and not in a good way like "old skool") cardio trend at my gym. And even my trainer (with whom I only have a couple more sessions anyhow) is a "steady cardio" man. However, I told him I wanted to do interval training with my cardio and he at least played along by suggesting doing it once a week. Well, whatever!

I figure for this month I'll play his game...mostly...but you can be sure I'm angling to create a HIIT plan for myself for the future (while still applying those principles to my all my cardio right now).
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Old Sat, Jan-20-07, 07:59
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It makes a HUGE difference! I first started jogging by "accident" one day on the treadmill. I'd worked up to walking about as fast as I could and then found myself jogging just a little bit. Amazingly enough, I got faster and faster over time and was able to run for longer and longer periods. And, yes, I do feel younger!
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Old Sat, Jan-20-07, 08:06
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I see my secret is out! ( Ha Ha) It does work. I do some kind of HIIT routine everytime I use the treadmill. I notice not too many people want to put the effort into it though. They just stare at me and say "I wish I could look like you" do their 20 minute slow walk and leave. ( that 20 min is better than nothing though!)
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Old Sat, Jan-20-07, 09:26
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The problem with this for cardio is keep it up without causing an injury. Sprinting is the surest way to develop an injury for someone not well trained or overweight. What works better (and safer) is running on the treadmill at 15% grade. That gets the heart rate elevated long before you give yourself achiles tendinits or shinsplints or any of the other common runner maladies.
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Old Sat, Jan-20-07, 09:41
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Who said it had to be only sprints? It could be walking at first,stationary bike and treadmill..

I don't know of to many sprinters that have shinsplints,that is usually long distant runners..that slow steady cardio and that continuous pounding

the bottom line is this is the most efficient form of "cardio" combined with weightlifting, to lose fat. Plus you do it in a lot less time and you see results faster.
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Who said it had to be only sprints? It could be walking at first,stationary bike and treadmill..

I don't know of to many sprinters that have shinsplints,that is usually long distant runners..that slow steady cardio and that continuous pounding

the bottom line is this is the most efficient form of "cardio" combined with weightlifting, to lose fat. Plus you do it in a lot less time and you see results faster.


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Intervals — short bursts of speed mixed into a running, biking, swimming, elliptical, rowing or other aerobic workout — are nothing new for organized sports, where they've long been a tried-and-true method to build speed and power. What's new is that high-intensity interval training is being discovered by average people, who like the speed but love the side effects even more: weight loss, muscle toning and reduced workout time.


I am relating this to what I did as a kid when I was training as a swimmer. When we worked out, we did distance and then short sprints, over and over...and then over again!! It was a heavy workout but I do believe that due to that kind of working out as a child, that I've got muscle memory and am hoping this will get me where I am trying to go now.

I'm happy to know that I can do this same thing without getting wet!!
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Who said it had to be only sprints? It could be walking at first,stationary bike and treadmill..

I don't know of to many sprinters that have shinsplints,that is usually long distant runners..that slow steady cardio and that continuous pounding

the bottom line is this is the most efficient form of "cardio" combined with weightlifting, to lose fat. Plus you do it in a lot less time and you see results faster.


Right, and it's all about the relative intensity level at which you are working. If you can't run or sprint easily, you can still do HIIT by walking at an incline. I also do it on the step mill. It's whatever activity is intense for YOU. The great thing is that like weight lifting, where you continually add weight to challenge your muscles, you gradually increase the intensity as you adapt, so you actually can work up to running over time.

Long-distance running gave me shin splints, plantar fasciitis and ITB. HIIT has only made me faster and stronger.
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The problem with this for cardio is keep it up without causing an injury. Sprinting is the surest way to develop an injury for someone not well trained or overweight. What works better (and safer) is running on the treadmill at 15% grade. That gets the heart rate elevated long before you give yourself achiles tendinits or shinsplints or any of the other common runner maladies.





High Intensity doesn't mean "run as fast as you can" ( Although the young guys at my gym are pretty entertaining when they run at 9.0 and look like they are going to fall on their face) You don't even have to use the treadmill, there are soooooooo many other fun ways.
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Old Thu, Jan-25-07, 16:36
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I've been toying around with HIIT and it makes me feel so nauseaus! Thank god it doesnt last long!
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