Sat, Feb-29-20, 11:16
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Originally Posted by teaser
I'm not so sure that the process described is so different from how butter is mass-produced these days. This actually looks like a very low level of processing, compared to what soy or even olive oil goes through.
I think if you can get bugs with better feed conversion than say pork or chicken, then you've got something. They always compare to feed lot beef--because that's the easiest one to beat, when it comes to feed efficiency and water use. Last time I checked, crickets didn't look any better than chickens on that front.
Dairy using water--well, milk is mostly water. It's sort of the point. With oat or almond "milk" do we count the water in the end product? We'll have to factor that in when larva milk hits the market.
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All of the grain, bean, and nut "milk" requires a lot of water to grow, then even more water to soak out the milky looking substance that they're calling "milk". Almonds require a tremendous amount of water to grow - it's not like you can grow any of the others without a lot of water either, and when it's time that the grains and beans should be harvested, you need to have them as dried out as possible. Unfortunately, that's usually also the time of year when the rains intensify, so all that water is completely wasted, while the farmer hopes and prays for enough dry weather to complete harvesting adequately dry grains/beans, before freezing weather ruins the too-wet crop.
Cattle on the other hand - as long as they're not being raised on a feed lot, and barring a drought, water should not need to be piped in for them. They need a good bit of water to drink, but some small rain retention pools or ponds are usually adequate (My FIL had enough water for his cattle simply by digging small ponds in the pastures on the side of the mountain. They were naturally filled by rain water, and in the wintertime, he used a sledge hammer to break the ice so they'd have water to drink) Cattle also... emit... a good bit of the fluid they drink too, which helps to replenish fluid consumed as they eat the grass. This is how it should work.
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I wonder about feed efficiency--intentionally breeding more muscular, less fat animals for leaner cuts of meat doesn't sound like it would improve feed efficiency. And how much pork and beef fat is trimmed and wasted, as is?
I'm not against eating bugs. But I don't know that they're as resource-friendly as claimed, I sort of wonder why some of our less squeamish ancestors didn't farm them on a larger scale.
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They need to feed hogs a much lower carb diet in order to create the very lean pork we have today - rooting for their food, eating their natural diet results in a much fattier (tastier) meat. So yeah, feeding what is an unnatural diet for them is not an efficient use of of food either, because it requires growing food specifically for them to eat.
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