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Old Tue, Jun-15-21, 19:12
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Plan: IPA, DDF
Stats: 237.5/214.5/150 Female 64
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Progress: 26%
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I'm down 3.2 lbs so far in the Jun challenge...pretty good for me. Feel way better back in DDF...I have started doing some tracking to see how the nutrients are. Not sure I'll ever get that part down...lol.
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Old Wed, Jun-16-21, 07:48
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Plan: P:E/DDF/LC-DrWestman
Stats: 225/156/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/29%/25%
Progress: 123%
Location: NC
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I'm down 3.2 lbs so far in the Jun challenge...pretty good for me. Feel way better back in DDF...I have started doing some tracking to see how the nutrients are. Not sure I'll ever get that part down...lol.

That's fantastic! I am attempting to do both programs again, so am just treading water. Happened the last time as well, by increasing nutrients I seem to eat more…not the point of the program! There are some intense Nutrient optimizers making green power drinks every morning, sun-bathing their mushrooms, and I just can’t get into that. So same weight, same fasting window for me, even though I have increased my protein over the previous NO program. If you use Cronometer, it gives a Nutrient Score, not optimized by calorie the way NO does it, but gives you a first cut at what to focus on using the RDI.
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Old Fri, Jun-18-21, 05:36
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Plan: P:E/DDF/LC-DrWestman
Stats: 225/156/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/29%/25%
Progress: 123%
Location: NC
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If anyone has purchased a Bio-Impedence scale for these DDF programs, or just because OCD , Marty has written a good explanation how they work.
https://optimisingnutrition.com/wha...-i-manage-them/

I have been complaining since Christmas that all my numbers are green, except Subcutaneous Fat. That yellow number is based on correlations from Dexas for people similar in weight, age, etc. But still..6 months and that number stayed yellow while all others were good and still slowly decreasing. So a shock this morning when I noticed ALL GREEN. Subcutaneous Fat slipped into the Standard Range! I know, silly for me to be excited by that, but it’s been months since a noticeable change. No complaints as I’m at a 23.3 BMI…but I took a screen shot and placed in June's DDF challenge page…proof it happened once. [The 1 pound difference between weight here and there is the difference in scales..didn’t buy the Renpho until November..wish I had now at the start of DDF]
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Old Fri, Jun-18-21, 06:29
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Plan: DDF (2021 Q2)
Stats: 168/93/82 Male 182cm
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Contrats Janet and Iceberg! I'll check out that scale article. I purchased the little Renpho, the body fat calculation seems to be just that, a calculation - not related to body composition changes IMO - to test, drink 2 L of water and see how "fat" you get - actually I have not tried that - I'll do it right now since I'm thirsty.
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Old Fri, Jun-18-21, 22:32
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Plan: IPA, DDF
Stats: 237.5/214.5/150 Female 64
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Progress: 26%
Location: WA
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I bought a scale for the May DDF challenge...no recommendations at the time so I didn't get the Rhenpro...it tells me I'm 80 years old...and my fat is still the same.

Since 26 Jan, I've lost 23 pounds...the last about 11 on DDF challenges. I was on an Ideal Protein Alternative for a couple months, but it just wasn't a sustainable way of life for me. I'm sticking with DDF until all this weight is gone and probably will skip the next NO. I need to concentrate on the weight loss for now. I lost a couple weeks just struggling with NO...

So I figure the NO after the next one I might be mentally able to follow along and be in onederland by then...d
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Old Sat, Jun-19-21, 03:29
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Plan: P:E/DDF/LC-DrWestman
Stats: 225/156/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/29%/25%
Progress: 123%
Location: NC
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Whoa, 23 pounds in 5 months! I’d stick with DDF too. That's great.

I continue to follow some of the basic NO food advice…first meal of day, more protein. Bacon and eggs is no longer on my menu. First focus on seafood…high protein and satiety per calorie. If I get in a rut using leftover rotisserie chicken, I have a small serving of liver Pate. Answer for me when the NO score is low, add liver, canned salmon or mackerel and green salad. Almost anything on Ted Naiman's Low Energy template works. https://www.lowenergydiet.com/
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Old Yesterday, 03:45
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Plan: P:E/DDF/LC-DrWestman
Stats: 225/156/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/29%/25%
Progress: 123%
Location: NC
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Marty is launching a Podcast show now…a terrific new podcast to add to your library: Optimising Nutrition with Marty Kendall

Only three episodes posted at the moment but he has another two dozen or so recorded on different video platforms that will be available as podcasts soon. Subscribe now to hear them all.
Link to Luis Villasenor interview and subscribe button: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...i=1000525863136.

My favorite interview with Ted Naiman and Marty if you want to watch it now as a video: https://youtu.be/ilduzDTFUlQ
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Old Yesterday, 09:25
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Plan: Epi-Paleo/IF
Stats: 220/123/150 Female 67
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Progress: 139%
Location: USA
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Thanks, Janet. Signed up and looking forward.
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