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Old Mon, Feb-06-06, 10:33
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 225/143/155 Female 5'10''
BF:38%/21.4%/24.9%
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I've been following Atkins for three years now (fell off the bandwagon once and am 15lbs. from goal now), and protein shakes work fine for me. You have to watch the carb intake on some designer wheys though. However, I weight train seriously and am training for my second marathon. My body uses the designer whey post workout to aid in muscle recovery. If you are into intense exercise, I would recommend them to help supplement the quick burning glycogen present in muscle tissue and aid in the restorative process. If you are rather sedentary, I would follow the advice of Brook and the like and omit whey protein until after you complete induction.

You can still lose using protein shakes, bars, etc., if you are extremely active. Otherwise, you might plateau and stall your weight loss. Like Ned, I am a believer in protein shakes, Atkins forum or not. It just depends on your body type and level of activity. It's not that I can't find anything else to eat when I'm at the grocery store, I just happen to prefer these types of supplements prior to morning hillwork or a ten mile jaunt. It's fairly hard to run a 10k with a belly full of bacon and eggs. If I'm not training, I also just LIKE them, period.

You'll notice that my body fat percentages seem skewed if it says I'm still 15lbs. away from goal. That's because most of it is muscle. I credit protein shakes with my muscle mass, density, and strength, as they allow me to run long distances, lift weights, and not suffer lossage of mass like most seriously active people do while "dieting." Of course, I use the word "dieting" flippantly, as this is a WOL, not a diet. Most gym rats know you can't "diet" and expect to increase muscle strength and definition.

Experiment with yourself--if you find you stall with the whey protein, cut it until after induction. If you continue to lose at your current stats, adjust accordingly.

Most of all, good luck!
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Old Mon, Feb-06-06, 11:17
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Plan: Atkins
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Interesting discussion.

My position: Atkins never recommended living on protein shakes, with occasional real food a few times a week. Actually, *the exact opposite*.

On Atkins, convenience or "frankenfoods" are portrayed as an occasional indulgence, okay in moderation/when there's not a better choice available. (ie, a Atkins bar or shake is better than a twinkie if you're out and about without access to other low carb foods).

This doesn't make other plans bad or unhealthy or wrong---it just means that if you're sustaining yourself on protein shakes, you're certainly following a low carb plan, it's just not Atkin's plan.

I think many people have come to see "low carb" and "atkins" as nearly synonymous terms, since the Atkins WOE is probably the most popular/well known low carb plan.

Jen
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Old Tue, Feb-07-06, 00:13
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Plan: Dr. Atkins
Stats: 225/219/200 Male 73"
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Designer is ok, but ON tastes much better and the price is right. Met-rx (extreme choc) is also very good.

MJ
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Old Sun, Aug-16-20, 20:55
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Plan: Atkins NDR (2002)
Stats: 270.2/236/165 Female 5ft
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This is a question that's been on my own mind lately. I'm coming from only eating one main meal a day and one snack, to a plan that expects me to eat so much more often than I'm used to. Breakfast for me, is pretty much a no-no. I take a bunch of meds as soon as I wake up with some water and even the smell or the thought of food for the first few hours makes me nauseated. I've tried to 'break my fast' upon rising a couple of times, but it's as if my stomach just doesn't wake up when the rest of me does and it can be really hard not to have it 'bounce' leaving me running to puke in the bathroom. I've just never been a breakfast person and always done without.

But if I'm going to be needing to get fat & protein into me, at least three times a day, the only way around it I can see is to use something like a protein shake, blended with coconut oil & ice, to create a drink that I can sip on slowly via a straw.

I also cannot eat a lot too late at night, because I have another bunch of medications to take and I need them to be absorbed properly, not get lost or delayed in a system full of food. I'd be looking at my lunch being my largest meal, with something like a shake sipped slowly after taking morning meds, and a smaller meal in the evening that won't lie in my stomach for a long time taking forever to digest, and won't interfere with my evening meds.

So I'm really hoping that I can make this shake instead of breakfast thing work. I know I'm just a huge pain in the ass with my "special requirements" but my medicine regime takes precedence and always will if I want to be around on this planet for the long haul.
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Old Sun, Aug-16-20, 21:21
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You are not required to eat three meals a day.

As research has advanced in the area of weight management, fewer meals or even a narrow window of eating allows many folks here to maintain, or even drop pounds......

Three squares a day may have benefits for some people, and is a good methodology to start a low carb way of eating, many will move to two meals a day.

So with that said, do what works for you.
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Old Mon, Aug-17-20, 08:46
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Plan: Atkins NDR (2002)
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Thanks Ms Arielle, that's a relief to hear. I was hoping to be able to work my towards a combination of Atkins with IF, because of the way my appetite just doesn't kick in until I've been awake for a good few hours. Because of my meds and the very weird sleeping habits they're connected to, I'm used to having one big meal a day and a snack later on. And I really can't risk doing anything that will make me throw up, when I need to make sure said meds get into my system. At least now I needn't worry about consuming anything upon waking. Thanks again.

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Old Mon, Aug-17-20, 18:03
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Plan: TheraKeto~Atkins72
Stats: 170/133/140 Female 62 inches
BF:24%
Progress: 123%
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Hi. I've been taking D3 supplements for years, yet a recent blood test shows I'm low on D. Wuh!? I didn't realize I need to take the supplement with food for absorption and I'd been taking my meds on rising with water, then taking an hour-long walk before my coffee. So I get the "meds rule" thing.

You mentioned using coconut oil and that can be a problem with a wonky stomach. Mine is very sensitive and doesn't tolerate the oils in drinks. I use powdered MCT oil which froths beautifully in warm drinks.

I measure my blood ketones and my goal is 1.5-3mmol/l. This is known as therapeutic ketosis. I do this because I'm old and have osteoarthritis and don't want pain.

If I have my special Bulletproof Coffee recipe, I don't have to eat for many hours. It helps keep me in deep ketosis. Here's my recipe:

1 cup black coffee
Artificial Sweetener of choice
2 tbsp salted butter
2 scoops Nutricost C8 MCT Oil Powder
Frothed to perfection, then enjoyed.
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Old Mon, Aug-17-20, 19:08
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BlueVelvet....for what its worth, I dont make my teens eat breakfast in the traditional sense. Their first meal is between 10am and noon, or later.

Eat what and when it works for you.
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Old Wed, Aug-19-20, 15:03
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Plan: Atkins NDR (2002)
Stats: 270.2/236/165 Female 5ft
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Ah...those teenage years! I remember them well. Lol! I guess the 3 square meals with breakfast being an essential component upon rising is probably just another example of the 'received wisdom' ideas that we all have to get over and stop holding onto (like the low-cal/low-fat guff still out there being promoted by governments & health professionals! Grr.)
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