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Old Tue, Nov-04-08, 09:28
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Is theBear still here? Is he doing OK?
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Old Tue, Nov-04-08, 10:13
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He migrated to another forum I think.
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Old Thu, Nov-06-08, 02:42
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His website can be found here, and I think you'll find that he's an all-around interesting guy. Purveying an all-meat diet is pretty cool, but operating an underground LSD lab and doing sound engineering for the Grateful Dead is more interesting to me.
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Old Thu, Nov-06-08, 19:58
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Last we knew he was suffering badly from cancer, had to eat mushy liquid food only, am not sure if he actually survived the cancer.
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Old Thu, Nov-06-08, 19:59
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oh speaking of cancer, anyone heard from PlaneCrazy? I wonder if he is OK?
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Old Thu, Nov-06-08, 20:11
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I've been wondering about Plane too. Haven't seen him since August. I hope he's doing alright.
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Old Thu, Nov-06-08, 23:19
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Does anyone know what kind of cancer he had and where you read that to confirm it?
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Old Thu, Nov-06-08, 23:22
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Throat/oesophagus cancer, he is the one who was talking about it on his own infamous thread on this forum. Sorry don’t have a link to his long thread, but perhaps someone can post it.
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Old Thu, Nov-06-08, 23:24
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here, found the link, good luck reading it lol - it took me a couple of weeks to read most of it.

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=287013
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Old Thu, Nov-06-08, 23:44
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Oh yea, I remember now. I thought it was a new cancer that he got and was wondering if it had to do with the the diet or something. I read that whole thread as well. It was great until the bashing started. The last post says it's closed but to feel free to start a new thread where the carnivorous diet is to be discussed/argued. Does this exist or has no one started it?
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Old Thu, Nov-06-08, 23:51
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Oh yea, I remember now. I thought it was a new cancer that he got and was wondering if it had to do with the the diet or something. I read that whole thread as well. It was great until the bashing started. The last post says it's closed but to feel free to start a new thread where the carnivorous diet is to be discussed/argued. Does this exist or has no one started it?

What? One cancer is not good enough for ya ? There is no evidence that his cancer was diet / or not diet related. A few studies confirmed if someone has a predisposition towards cancer, eating high protein diet may trigger and speed growth of cancerous cells.
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Old Fri, Nov-07-08, 00:15
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What? One cancer is not good enough for ya ? There is no evidence that his cancer was diet / or not diet related. A few studies confirmed if someone has a predisposition towards cancer, eating high protein diet may trigger and speed growth of cancerous cells.


Welp, guess I better eat high carbs, low fat/protein just in case
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Old Fri, Nov-07-08, 00:29
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not eating high animal protein diet does not equate to eating high carbs/low fat... there are alternatives you know...
I often go LC vegetarian for long periods.... you don't have to go vegetarian, but a meat overload (in fact any food group overload) is not a wise thing to do, the key is wholesome balanced food groups, carb sources can be vegetables, it doesn't have to be pasta/bread and cake ... but this is only my opinion you are free to do what suits you most
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Old Fri, Nov-07-08, 07:22
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Welp, guess I better eat high carbs, low fat/protein just in case


You might want to rethink that, given tumor growth is fueled by high carbs ( e.g. ). Anyway, theBear is still alive - he left when the thread began turning to the same sort of cancer talk cropping up here.
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Old Fri, Nov-07-08, 07:32
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You might want to rethink that, given tumor growth is fueled by high carbs ( e.g. ). Anyway, theBear is still alive - he left when the thread began turning to the same sort of cancer talk cropping up here.


Do you have any evidence that he is still alive?? and of course people are interested in his cancer, if he is proclaiming that carnivorous way is the healthiest for us, then we obviously need to see evidence of such health advantages to that WOE... obviously in his case this could not be proven.

I myself had a stint with carnivorous WOE, and being on one of that forum, I notice a few members developing the following:
Thyroid problems
Gout
Kinney stones
Hair falling out
Mouth ulcers (lack of vit C)
Ovarian Cysts (yes having only animal fat/protein will influence hormonal balances (estrogen) and cause ovarian cysts
Almost everyone on the forum has their weight stalled after an initial modest loss
Then quite a few suffered weight gains

This doesn’t mean that the only alternative to carnivore WOE is to go low fat/high carb, one needs to be intelligent about balancing their food group, and not depriving your body of valid nutrient. For example you can combine animal/plan protein and fat , and eat some fruit and nuts to balance your diet.
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