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Old Mon, Apr-28-14, 17:14
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Richard Nikoley said in several places that adding potato starch gave him gas, so I was expecting gas in the form of flatulence.

I've been burping a lot since starting this. I don't understand why. It seems like the little buggers are producing gas too high in my digestive tract. I wonder what it means that I'm burping. Is it normal to have bacteria living in your stomach? I thought they were supposed to reside in the colon primarily. I'm not taking the probiotic and potato starch at the same time, so it's not that.


Maybe SIBO? I'm doing research at the moment as to why fibre and resistant starch give be severe explosive diarrhoea and that's what I'm thinking. I also get burping too. Not sure how to treat it though.
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Old Mon, Apr-28-14, 17:38
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My cat gets IBD too, and allergies, but only if I feed her chicken. I want to try Florentero. My kitties need something too.

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Old Mon, Apr-28-14, 17:44
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Dr. Liu has a protocol for tackling SIBO. I think her blog is Animal Pharma.
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Old Mon, Apr-28-14, 18:11
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Dr. Liu has a protocol for tackling SIBO. I think her blog is Animal Pharma.

Thanks Nancy, I'll take a look.
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Old Mon, Apr-28-14, 23:09
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I was just talking to the vet about this since my cat won't touch food with Fortiflora (daily dose forever w/IBD) on it, but likes Florentero (7-10 day dose, which comes from Italy but is cheaper in the long run and Dweezil needs to eat!). Both are human-grade probiotics.

Evidently there are different strains of Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium and some set up robust colonies that sustain themselves whereas other strains aren't as robust and die off faster than they can reproduce, so the colony will die off if you don't constantly add more. These are cheaper per pill and of course the pharmaceutical companies want you as a customer for life, not for a week or 10 days. Both have similar numbers of bacteria per pill/tablet, but the strains (sub species level, not indicated on the labels) are different.

That's interesting, I didn't know there were probiotics specifically for dogs. I always I give Madeleine the ones made for humans. It also never occurred to me that Italy was making probiotics. If you travel a lot you might be able to collect hundreds of strains. Just when I thought there wasn't another single thing I want to buy ....

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If you eat sugar and other SAD crap, you feed the bad bacteria which overtakes the good bacteria. In this case the colonizing dose wouldn't work if you're constantly killing off the good bacteria, like most people on the SADiet. So this is why most North American pills, yogurt etc. use the cheaper dose strains instead of the robust colonizers. Also, most EU countries have public health systems, so they promote short-term remedies.

I rarely eat real sugar anymore but I wonder if they feed on erythritol or xylitol.
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Maybe SIBO? I'm doing research at the moment as to why fibre and resistant starch give be severe explosive diarrhoea and that's what I'm thinking. I also get burping too. Not sure how to treat it though.

I'll have to look into that. Thanks.
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Old Tue, Apr-29-14, 16:42
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Is it ok to be on probiotics all the time?
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Old Tue, Apr-29-14, 19:04
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I think so, CArol.
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