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Old Sun, Jan-31-16, 08:42
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Plan: General Low Carb
Stats: 244/184/150 Female 5' 7"
BF:Too much.
Progress: 64%
Location: Central Oregon, USA
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I lost five pounds since last night.


Don't ya love it when that happens?!?!
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Old Sun, Jan-31-16, 08:49
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Plan: General Low Carb
Stats: 244/184/150 Female 5' 7"
BF:Too much.
Progress: 64%
Location: Central Oregon, USA
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Here are the numbers converted from UK to US glucose readings.
30.7 mmol/l = 547 mg/dl
16.2 mmol/l = 291 mg/dl
14.4 mmol/l = 259 mg/dl

After I posted about my success, how I did it and suggested diet and exercise others were showing support. There were people actually doing IF. Then my account, all my posts and other people's posts were deleted by the moderator.


One can't help but wonder if the government sees them as defectives and is trying to kill them off, or something...

I mean, telling someone who is walking around with a glucose of 547 that they don't have to worry, is murder, if you ask me.

Let me guess, doctors can't be sued for malpractice over there..?
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Old Mon, Feb-01-16, 08:40
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Plan: no sugar/grains LCHF IF
Stats: 478/354/200 Female 5' 9"
BF:excessive!!
Progress: 45%
Location: UK
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One can't help but wonder if the government sees them as defectives and is trying to kill them off, or something...

I mean, telling someone who is walking around with a glucose of 547 that they don't have to worry, is murder, if you ask me.

Let me guess, doctors can't be sued for malpractice over there..?


From what I read the doctor did treat her, she raised the medication until the BG was under control again. The woman was freaking out because her BG had increased on her home testing and she had been told by her doc NOT to home test. From what I could see she hadn't returned to doctor with the issue at that point. However she appears to have been hospitalised with a separate issue and is now getting care from a specialist consultant, who is advising insulin, and not diet changes, but at least her BG will be controlled. She is on steroids and should have been more closely monitored by her GP - were it me, I would have put in a complaint, but sadly as an older person, she is unlikely to. It is traditionally not part of British culture to complain much, so bad doctors get away with being substandard for a long time - if not the whole of their career. GPs also do not have much in the way of continuing education or evaluation, so skills and knowledge are not updated unless the doctor themselves put the effort in, or the NHS mandates a new policy on an issue.

The GP was definitely wrong in discouraging home testing - I suspect it may have been in order to discourage many repeat visits to the GP that might not be necessary. Because we make no payments for GP visits, they tend to be overwhelmed by those who attend with the slightest thing. The GPs behaviour is still not right, though. Though doctors can be struck off for malpractice, it is not so common as doctors are overly revered and all cover for each other.

We don't have restriction of free speech particularly in the UK, but with one large nationwide health body - the NHS, it is expected that doctors and nurses promote the 'company line', much like your U.S. organisations that register dieticians. As such, not many health professionals will give conflicting advice, but some do.

With websites, it is down to the moderators what is allowed and what isn't. A moderator wedded to the current dogma on diabetes treatment may see low carb advice as 'dangerous' and delete posts for that reason - they would be wrong. It says little about free speech in the UK, and a lot about the moderation policy on that particular website.
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Old Tue, Feb-02-16, 10:25
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Plan: General Low Carb
Stats: 244/184/150 Female 5' 7"
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Progress: 64%
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It is traditionally not part of British culture to complain much, so bad doctors get away with being substandard for a long time - if not the whole of their career.


It's a sad state of affairs...
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Old Tue, Feb-02-16, 13:31
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Plan: LCHF/Keto
Stats: 162/116.6/117 Female 61 inches
BF:30.6%/22.0%/22.1%
Progress: 101%
Location: Kentuckiana
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Great links and blog! Thanks for the links. I'm going to be lost in there the rest of the day!
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Old Wed, Feb-03-16, 15:48
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Plan: keto
Stats: 410/298.6/225 Male 74 inches
BF:40/35%/17%
Progress: 60%
Location: Lincoln, NE
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I'm glad Steve Cooksey and his blog http://www.diabetes-warrior.net/ have been mentioned here because he has gone to battle with the ADE over their misinformation.

Reading this thread through reminded me of when I was diagnosed. Having already done LCHF in the past, I knew what I would do immediately after the diagnosis. At my one month checkup, my internist asked if I had signed up for the diabetic education classes he referred me to. I said "no" and frankly explained to him why I had not. Of course, I was already well on my way to turning it around, and had discussed how I was doing it with him, and he was okay with LCHF, especially with the results I was already showing. We knew each other outside of his clinic, as his nephews had been part of our scout troop, so he knew he could be frank with me too. He just said, "it's only four evenings, you need to do it." And I knew what he meant. If you refuse to follow the treatment your doctor has prescribed, and if you apply for any kind of insurance (life, disability, long term care) and your doctor has charted you as non-compliant on education, medicine, etc., it could skyrocket your rates, or get you denied.

So I decided to go...and I made it clear to the educators what I was doing. I got all of the "you need carbohydrates for your brain" and "you can only have one egg yolk a week". And I just smiled and showed them my BG numbers and they were flabbergasted. Meanwhile the "compliant" members of the class were coming in with much higher numbers.

Oh, and they provided snacks for the class: Graham crackers!!!
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Old Wed, Feb-03-16, 16:45
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Plan: very low carb real food
Stats: 245/125/135 Female 62
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Progress: 109%
Location: Vermont
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Oh, and they provided snacks for the class: Graham crackers!!!


It's insanity.

Jean
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Old Wed, Feb-03-16, 18:18
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Plan: Very LC, Higher Protein
Stats: 227/186/185 Male 6' 0"
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Oh, and they provided snacks for the class: Graham crackers!!!

Only a satire of national proportions could treat this with the dignity it deserves!!!
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Old Mon, Apr-11-16, 10:55
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So what was the takeaway?
Fasting yea or nay on Keto?

I personally find it counter productive. But I do it s
Anyway b/c Im either not hungry or dont want to cook.
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