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Old Mon, Feb-13-12, 20:43
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Question Fat to protein ratio

I am reading protein power, but I am unsure about what ratio to use. I am starting at 270 and 5'5.. I fall under the 40 grams of protein for each meal but not sure about the good fat percentage...
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Old Tue, Feb-14-12, 15:36
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The Eades only count carb grams (so you don't get too much) and protein grams (so you get enough).

For fat, they say just eat what comes with the protein like steak or cheese, or with cooking like frying eggs in butter, plus dressing on salad, , for starters. If you are not losing after a couple of weeks they say to look at big sources of fat like nuts - but not before just trying your normal preferences first.

The Eades do NOT advise that percentage thing. Dr Mike has written scathingly about it. That's because it's assumed to be a percent of calorie-counting based on conventional calorie formulas which are all wrong for LC eating.
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Old Tue, Feb-14-12, 20:01
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Thanks SeeJay, I had seen several posts about people doing percentages of fat to protein.. Thanks...
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Old Tue, Oct-02-12, 16:23
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this thread will give you a lot if info on the fat ratio.
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LOL Sorry,
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=446986

We need to keep our protein up to at least a minimum, but not oo high. Here is more info, technical, but good, on that as well.

http://weightoftheevidence.blogspot.com/?m=0
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Old Fri, Feb-01-13, 10:56
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The ratio will vary from person to person. The best advice I got was to keep carbs low (for me 30-40 per day), eat adequate protein (100 g per day) and enough fat to keep me from being hungry.

I love Jenny Ruhl for her advice on blood sugars, but I personally think her protein recommendations are too low. Unless you have known blood sugar problems and are not controlling it and/or losing weight even by reducing carbs to 30 g per day (per Bernstein), you don't have to restrict your protein as much as Jenny suggests.

I personally think Dr Donald Layman (a researcher who concentrates on protein) has the best advice about protein: 30 grams per meal, 3 meals per day. He feels everyone regardless of size needs this much (to avoid loss of lean tissue), and he feels it needs to be spread out throughout the dat. I've recently increased my protein per his recommendations and I'm losing better than I did when I was eating less. Perhaps because I don't get as hungry between meals and am not tempted to eat high fat (and high calorie) snacks.

Here's an interview with Laymon by Jimmy Moore. Moore is currently eating lower protein than Layman recommends, so he sounds skeptical at times. I, however, was convinced:

http://www.askthelowcarbexperts.com...-donald-layman/
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Old Fri, Mar-15-13, 10:12
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LOL Sorry,
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=446986

We need to keep our protein up to at least a minimum, but not oo high. Here is more info, technical, but good, on that as well.

http://weightoftheevidence.blogspot.com/?m=0

cheers! this has reminded me again to get into the coconut oil to get my fat intake up
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Old Fri, Mar-15-13, 19:23
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I am one of those who are insulin sensitive and keep my protein to what Jenny Ruhl says. I have seen many LC people stall until they lowered protein and raised fat.
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Old Fri, Mar-15-13, 21:36
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I am one of those who are insulin sensitive and keep my protein to what Jenny Ruhl says. I have seen many LC people stall until they lowered protein and raised fat.


totally sounds like me. I'll eat such a small amount of calories, due to not being hungry, and my metabolism is that of someone 15 years older. I've been low carbing for over ten years, and as I have had some off plan months (which result in gaining ten kilos each time) I am heavier than what I was. Paleo here I come.

I am armed with a jar of coconut oil at home and at the office, so I'm ready for results. I know it works, and now my mission is to demonstrate to others that this is the way to do it.
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