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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 15:02
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I entered food today at My P.L.A.N. and the breakdown showed the PECC as 3.6


When I went to my 'Daily Summary' and it showed them at 9.5


When I went to 'Show Details' it showed them at 9.5


Then, when I clicked 'Submit message' for this note I got an error that said 'No Forum specified'.


HELP!

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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 15:30
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No doubt the ingenious T will be here shortly to help you out on that one, I think that happened to me, but I just ignored it - I will look in again to see what he says.
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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 15:33
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Hey, thanks for the detailed report

It's now fixed.

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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 15:35
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No doubt the ingenious T will be here shortly to help you out on that one, I think that happened to me, but I just ignored it - I will look in again to see what he says.


Don't ignore any errors The program is still under development and testing, so we're interested in finding any bugs, so when it's officially release as a non-beta version, it would be thouroughly tested and cleaned up.

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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 15:37
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Sorry Wa'il, I thought it was something to do with me being silly and not looking at it right!! Thanks for clearing it up tho! It's a fantastic program...I am really enjoying it!
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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 16:10
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Atkins Carb Counter says this about avocados
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1 med Avocado whole raw (all varieties)

Total Carbs 15 - 10 fiber = 5 Net Cabs

My P.L.A.N. now says
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1/2 raw California Avocados

Total Carbs 7.5 PECC 7.5

For me the original My P.L.A.N. info was more accurate
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Total Carbs 7.5 PECC 3.6

and was more inline with Atkins' take on them.
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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 16:22
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Our data is obtained from USDA SR17 database, and shows carbs by difference (i.e. fiber subtracted)

I suspect the Atkins number is subtracting the fiber twice, instead of once, if they took the USDA carb count, and then subtracted the USDA listed fiber. That's clearly they case if you add the calories they listed for avocado.

As to difference between the PECC today, it was due to a bug reported earler today, and now should be fixed.

In any case, to find out if the carbs have already been subtracted, just compare the total calories to the result of this fomula:

(grams of carbs X 4) + (grams of protein x 4) + (grams of fat x 9)

If the result matches the declared calories, then they label has already subtracted the fiber. If not, then the label may have listed the total carbs (carbs and fiber)

That's just things add up, math-wise.

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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 17:12
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Atkins

(7.5 X 4) + (2.4 x 4) + (13.5 x 9) = 161.1 < (Atkins says 170)

My P.L.A.N.

(7.5 X 4) + (1.7 x 4) + (13.3 x 9) = 156.5 > (My P.L.A.N. 144)


Not sure I'm understanding......
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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 17:24
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Atkins

(7.5 X 4) + (2.4 x 4) + (13.5 x 9) = 161.1 < (Atkins says 170)

My P.L.A.N.

(7.5 X 4) + (1.7 x 4) + (13.3 x 9) = 156.5 > (My P.L.A.N. 144)


Not sure I'm understanding......



This one may be comparing two different items, as the protein count is different.

Could you give me the actual links to those items, and I'll be glad to post a detailed difference and calculation.

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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 17:42
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Just FYI, not all avocados are created equally California (Hass) avocados are smaller size, higher in fat and lower in carbs than Florida avocados.

The skin of California/Hass avocados are bumpy and turn nearly black when ripe.



Florida avocados have a smoother speckled skin which stays green when ripe.


So it's likely that the Atkins counter is giving the average carb count, since the listing states "all varieties". The MyPLAN count is for a specific variety, in this case a California type.


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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 17:48
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The links are in my original post and below.

USDA SR17 database

Energy 289 kcal
Energy 1206 kj

(14.95 x 4) + (3.39 x 4) + (26.66 x 9) = 477/2* = 238.5


*For 1/2 avocado

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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 17:56
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Originally Posted by dstartz
The links are in my original post and below.

USDA SR17 database

Energy 289 kcal
Energy 1206 kj

(14.95 x 4) + (3.39 x 4) + (26.66 x 9) = 477/2* = 238.5


*For 1/2 avocado


This gives a cgi error, not item listed. The USDA site does not give links to specific items, as it stores in sessions.

What was the title of the item?

Wa'il

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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 17:59
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I changed the link, it was a CA avocado and the measurement was '1 whole fruit'.
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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 18:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dstartz
I changed the link and it was a CA avocado.


No, it still shows the main USDA page, not the nutritional listing.

However, if you are comparing our database content, it will be identical to the USDA, since we use their latest version (SR 17).

The USDA lists carbs as carbs by difference, so the fiber is pre-subtracted.

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Old Fri, Feb-11-05, 18:23
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