Thu, Sep-06-07, 08:33
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muscle bound
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Plan: Lyle's PSMF
Stats: 226/150/135
BF:46/20/sliced
Progress: 84%
Location: near Budapest, Hungary
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Originally Posted by Diemde
Fat is just so much more satiating than carbs. I don't think I could stick to the first scenario long enough to make it work.
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Me neither!
I agree that both schemes will produce weight loss, but the second one (hi P) will probably provide more of that loss as FAT. It depends on the person in question's personal stats, as Muata pointed out. For a smaller person, the low protein one may be ok--you're looking at 106gP (hi C) vs 191gP (lo C). If the dieter was a 4'9" 100# female, then it would be plenty. If the dieter is a 5'9" 160# female, then she would lose muscle on the high carb one.
This is why telling someone to set up their diet based on percentages is not very wise--it should be based on their LBM (or else body weight).
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Originally Posted by Gost
Ok, knowing that insulin plays a HUGE role in lypolisis..
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If equal calories are being consumed, and it is providing a deficit, then it won't matter, assuming adequate protein and EFA's are being consumed. If someone eats a bunch of carbs, yeah, it will temporarily halt lypolysis, not permanently. The dieting person is still going to have to dip into their fat stores to provide energy--it's all about creating and keeping a caloric deficit.
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Originally Posted by Muata
I'm still looking for other authors who talk about this because I feel that I'm experiencing metabolic adaptions right now, as I'm finding it even harder to get leaner.
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An interesting article about how much of a deficit a person can withstand based on their fat mass:
http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindan...ew.php?artID=35
From the article:
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Now, empirically and based on research, it’s well established that…
a. fatter individuals lose more fat and less lean body mass (LBM) than leaner individuals; and
b. bigger individuals lose weight more quickly
By corollary, smaller/leaner individuals not only lose total weight/fat at a slower rate, they lose a greater proportion of LBM. The whole issue of calorie partitioning has been discussed to death in my various books, especially The Ultimate Diet 2.0.
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