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Old Fri, May-14-21, 09:16
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Me too
also better than fish


Fortunately, I love fish more the better it is for me. So it's mackerel, salmon, and smoked kippers!
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Old Fri, May-14-21, 10:33
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I had a terrible 24 hours after the 2nd Moderna. It has little to do with diet, IMHO. I sort of welcomed the side-effects because I felt they were an indication of the health of my immune system. However, Moderna also has more severe side-effects than the Pfizer shot.
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Old Fri, May-14-21, 11:51
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Pigs and chickens raised in conventional American operations are unfortunately fed a lot of stuff like corn or soybeans which adds loads of pro-inflammatory omega 6 fats found in these feeds to their body fat which is then passed on to ours. Not good. Ruminants on the other hand (cow/buffalo/sheep/goat) naturally convert the omega 6 fats to safer types of fat (for us when we eat it) in their complex digestive tracts. This is still the case with ruminants like cattle even when fed low quality conventional feed. If one can afford higher quality meats, great, but if not even the lowest quality beef is going to have a way better healthy to unhealthy (overloaded omega 6) fat profile compared with single stomach pigs and poultry fed typical cheap feeds. We, like pigs and chickens, cannot convert omega 6 to healthier fats like a ruminant can, so best IMO to minimize/avoid fats of these conventionally raised single stomach animals and get our animal fats from ruminant meat/dairy sources. At least that's what's working right now for me. For fish, I like to avoid farm-raised stuff because the commercial feed will likely contain the same kind of unhealthy stuff the animals are consuming. Wild caught, better.
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Old Fri, May-14-21, 14:34
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If one can afford higher quality meats, great, but if not even the lowest quality beef is going to have a way better healthy to unhealthy (overloaded omega 6) fat profile compared with single stomach pigs and poultry fed typical cheap feeds. We, like pigs and chickens, cannot convert omega 6 to healthier fats like a ruminant can, so best IMO to minimize/avoid fats of these conventionally raised single stomach animals and get our animal fats from ruminant meat/dairy sources. At least that's what's working right now for me. For fish, I like to avoid farm-raised stuff because the commercial feed will likely contain the same kind of unhealthy stuff the animals are consuming. Wild caught, better.

Working for me as well. Good points, particularly regarding farmed fish.
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Old Mon, May-17-21, 08:31
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I can't eat chicken. Due to the fact that they are fed too much corn, the meat has too much arachidonic acid, which inflames both my inherited bursitis and my occupational arthritis.

Before I gave up chicken and egg yolks, I couldn't walk 2 blocks without sitting for a long rest and I couldn't drive without a 'blue ice' pack behind my right hip.

I followed an arthritis/bursitis diet a doc gave me, which meant no fowl or egg yolks (it's also low carb) and now I can walk 4 miles for exercise with no pain at all, and drive for 8 or more hours without the blue ice pack.

I went from needing a hip replacement to zero pain in a few months.

Bob
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Old Mon, May-17-21, 14:21
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Yeah Bob!!!
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