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Old Mon, Jan-06-20, 12:52
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The carnivore diet has been gaining momentum for at least the past three years. It is now mainstream, particularly with regard to the health improvements experienced by people with serious auto immune disorders.
This January, is even "WorldCarnivoreMonth"

All the basics: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/carnivore

The above link has information and many stories: One of the most prominent and dramatic stories is of Canadian Mikhaila Peterson, who had juvenile rheumatoid arthritis that was so severe she’d had three joint replacements (a hip and two ankles) before age 17. She also had extreme fatigue, anxiety and depression. In 2015 she began eliminating foods to see if a specific food was contributing to her autoimmune issues. She ended up eating just beef, salt and water — and all her symptoms disappeared.

Also some of the most scientific and nuanced writing on the carnivore diet is being done by Amber O’Hearn, who has two blogs, Empirica and The Ketogenic Diet for Health. A computational mathematician, O’Hearn has been a carnivore for almost a decade and says she will stay on it for life, because it is the only way of eating that she has found that controls her bi-polar disorder. More stories at: https://meatrx.com/category/success-stories/

To learn more, there are many available resources now, including an older thread here titled Zero Carb. https://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=471960

Want more...An overwhelming list of Resources, from books, articles, FB pages, etc at:
https://justmeat.co

Popular podcast with 177 episodes with Dr. Shawn Baker:
https://humanperformanceoutliers.libsyn.com
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Old Mon, Jan-06-20, 14:56
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Good resources, Janet. My brother, who has been lc for many years, just started a carnivore WOE. I'm about as close as one can get to carnivore, but do eat some salad greens and Cruciferious veggies sometimes in small amounts. I'm intrigued by this WOE because the experiences of those who have embraced it are exceptional, and it's plausible that many would have similar experiences. This is very likely my next n=1 just to better understand how I respond to a carnivore approach. Glad you've started this thread.
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Old Mon, Jan-06-20, 15:39
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I started with just beef. I have more variety now, but it's 90% meat, dairy, eggs and seafood.

Put MY serious autoimmune condition into remission.
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Old Mon, Jan-06-20, 15:40
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Joe Rogan is embracing carnivore this month, he's doing blood tests and body comp before and after, but has been blabbing on Twitter how he feels (high energy for one) and his plans for a weight loss show in February. Interested to hear how you and your brother find it...I have to overcome the boring attitude.
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Old Tue, Jan-07-20, 03:39
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I have to overcome the boring attitude.


You mean eating the same thing day after day? The answer may surprise you, because it surprised me: everything is delicious.

Hunger is the best sauce

I really enjoy my simple, easy, meals. And I've honestly never said, "What, bacon, again?"
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Old Tue, Jan-14-20, 08:16
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Joe Rogan is embracing carnivore this month, he's doing blood tests and body comp before and after, but has been blabbing on Twitter how he feels (high energy for one) and his plans for a weight loss show in February. Interested to hear how you and your brother find it...I have to overcome the boring attitude.


This has been the biggest challenge for me with going mostly animal based. After doing it for about a month I got so bored that I decided to go back to low carb, but within a few days I missed the simplicity of carnivore and went back to it. Now I just try and make sure I have a variety of animal based foods on hand all the time. People like Dr. Baker only eat rib-eyes for the most part, but I could never eat just one thing!

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Old Tue, Jan-07-20, 06:20
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I've tried it and get to about a week, then have to have a salad. Doesn’t help the DH is eating one with his steak.
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Old Tue, Jan-07-20, 08:10
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To learn more, there are many available resources now, including an older thread here titled Zero Carb. https://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=471960


opular podcast with 177 episodes with Dr. Shawn Baker:
https://humanperformanceoutliers.libsyn.com


I went to the Zero Carb link and read the thread. Good stuff.
BUT . . . when I tried to go back to it today, it said it was a closed thread.
Then it refused to upload at all. How sad. I don't know if it is my system causing the problem.
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Old Tue, Jan-07-20, 08:35
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I went to the Zero Carb link and read the thread. Good stuff.
BUT . . . when I tried to go back to it today, it said it was a closed thread.
Then it refused to upload at all. How sad. I don't know if it is my system causing the problem.



It's still there - try clicking on the link again. I'm sure someone with more computer knowledge can come up with some other ideas to get it to come up again.
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Old Tue, Jan-07-20, 11:23
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Thanks for starting this carnivore thread.

Makes me wonder what we have done to the vegetables. What have they been sprayed with and if so ....is that the cause.
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Old Tue, Jan-07-20, 13:34
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For me, low carb has always meant a diet that is primarily meat, but only recently have I tried on purpose to eat just meat. Honestly, it's not that much different for me, although admittedly I will have fewer chocolate cravings on meat alone as opposed to my normal diet which includes tomatoes, avocados, cheese, and a chicken salad made with mayo and celery.

I think an all meat diet is probably easiest for those of us who consider salt our main spice. I've never been one to spend a lot of time looking for ways to prepare my meat. So long as it has salt on it, I'm good to go.
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Old Wed, Jan-08-20, 08:25
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I think an all meat diet is probably easiest for those of us who consider salt our main spice. I've never been one to spend a lot of time looking for ways to prepare my meat. So long as it has salt on it, I'm good to go.

I've always said that if a recipe had more than 3 ingredients (meat, salt, and pepper), I wasn't interested.
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Old Wed, Jan-08-20, 13:19
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I tried this about 7-8 years ago for a few months. I felt like garbage; weak and dizzy, exhausted.
However, I don’t eat red meat so I was not following it as intended!
Just adding a caution for anyone who is considering this and dislikes beef.

Personally I do well with veggies but they must be cooked, or it’s hard for me to digest. I even lightly steam things like carrots to have with dip.
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Old Tue, Jan-07-20, 14:03
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I have always been pro fresh veggie. I belonged to two fruit and veggie co-ops, kept a whole inventory of every veggie and I was eating a new one every day. Then when I went LC I replaced the carb (on the plate) with another veggie. So I ate 3-4 oz of meat and lots of veggies.
Now, I eat much less veggies and basically no fruit.
It's like my body got to the point where it said, "too many veggies" It took me a while to listen because I was in disbelief.
Now I do so much better with a big steak taking up the whole plate and some Zucchini next the steak and I might not eat all of the Z either. Usually I eat a half of a Ribeye 7-8oz but sometimes 3/4ths 8-10oz.
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Old Tue, Jan-14-20, 08:21
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I have always been pro fresh veggie. I belonged to two fruit and veggie co-ops, kept a whole inventory of every veggie and I was eating a new one every day. Then when I went LC I replaced the carb (on the plate) with another veggie. So I ate 3-4 oz of meat and lots of veggies.
Now, I eat much less veggies and basically no fruit.
It's like my body got to the point where it said, "too many veggies" It took me a while to listen because I was in disbelief.
Now I do so much better with a big steak taking up the whole plate and some Zucchini next the steak and I might not eat all of the Z either. Usually I eat a half of a Ribeye 7-8oz but sometimes 3/4ths 8-10oz.


Prior to going low carb and then more carnivore I was following a whole foods, plant based diet and using the recommendations from the Imperial College London-meaning I was eating a minimum of 800g a day of veg/fruit, 10+ servings a day. Cutting back on veg/fruit was the hardest thing for me when I transitioned to low carb. Now though, I don't eat any veg/fruit and I don't miss them at all, and my GI issues are all resolved whew!
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