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Old Mon, Nov-20-23, 15:59
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One reason keto and high protein/nutrient diets get labelled as "high fat" is because the % fat goes up when you simply remove from your diet the low-fat low-cal nutrient-free items that you don't need anyways. Clean air & water instead is not bad for anyone.

72g fat in a 2000 cal diet is only 32.4% fat (slightly lower than SAD average of 35% fat, 50% carbs, 15% protein).

But the same 72g of fat in my high-protein, high-nutrient-density 2MAD diet is 50% fat, yet I'm completely satiated on many fewer calories if 30-40% of them are healthy proteins.
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Old Mon, Nov-20-23, 20:44
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One reason keto and high protein/nutrient diets get labelled as "high fat" is because the % fat goes up when you simply remove from your diet the low-fat low-cal nutrient-free items that you don't need anyways. Clean air & water instead is not bad for anyone.

72g fat in a 2000 cal diet is only 32.4% fat (slightly lower than SAD average of 35% fat, 50% carbs, 15% protein).

But the same 72g of fat in my high-protein, high-nutrient-density 2MAD diet is 50% fat, yet I'm completely satiated on many fewer calories if 30-40% of them are healthy proteins.

My experience as well. Matter of fact, if you combine keto with a couple sessions of resistance training with weights per week, you consume fewer calories, experience higher satiety, and increase muscle mass. This has been working for me over the past few years. That’s hardly a big fat keto lie.
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The horror of fat is still with us.

Millions of previous generations would be unbelieving. A few magazine articles with butter on the cover has not changed anyone's beliefs, that I know of.

LOW FAT is still screaming from the center aisles. No one gets it. They can't even hear actual nutrition information because so much bad information is there to contradict it, and keep people in their unhealthy ruts.
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