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Originally Posted by JLx
What is a "massive" amount of protein? What is the maximum amount that is considered optimal at one meal?
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Hi JLx,
The discussion is right at the beginning of this short video:
https://youtu.be/G63yyDh8uQY
The basic guideline for the P:E diet is 1g protein per pound of ideal body weight. At 5’9, that's 145g for me which I have in 2 meals, plus a yogurt+protein powder snack. Dr Naiman considers this a minimum of protein, think he has said he's higher at 1.5g ? ( that would be 240 G protein
). body builders would eat more like 2g per pound, and the theoretical "too much" was 3g.
But even body builders don’t just eat animal protein, meals are balanced with carrots, apples, oatmeal, etc. Higher carb but low fat. Maximum protein at one meal depends on goals..some of the guys who workout in our group seem OK with crazy high percentages, but Marty Kendall's data shows even when doing a challenge, 40% protein is high, and pushing it to 50% or higher is not sustainable for long. The goal of a Macro class is to find what works for you.
https://optimisingnutrition.com/how...-your-appetite/
Even though I eat a lot of fish and chicken to up protein and lower fat, I also keep an eye on optimal nutrition, getting Omega 3s with seafood, range of micronutrients with more veggies, fruit and dairy. So Nutrient Density without supplements, but including things like a gelatin "protein flan" I make in chocolate. 100 x better than SF jello. More food ideas in the comments in my success story.
https://optimisingnutrition.com/ket...lan/#more-16451
EDIT ADD: As so often happens, I answer, then read an article or hear a podcast later, with MORE answers. This morning the latest episode of the new Optimal Protein Podcast.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...i=1000549199396
Vannesa Spina answers:
Minute 19..Is there such a thing as "too much protein"? Maybe over 200g protein if you are not training? But it will not stall weight loss.
Minute 32..Can there be too much protein in one meal? Up to 200 grams protein for a 70 kg person safe per Dr. Angela Stanton. [ Me trying to imagine 200g of protein in one meal
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Minute 49...Why Keto weight loss stalls after a while...and why Higher Protein works to restart weight loss and reach ideal weight.
PS: Her new Podcast, Optimal Protein, is good, in addition to the Protein Series she did last year on her Podcast, Formerly Known as Fast Keto