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Old Thu, Jun-07-18, 14:14
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Default Help--Fall asleep after eating!

Hello friends-- hoping for some advice here.

Took eating to a new level 4 days ago. Decided to try eating just one meal a day. THis is day 5, meal 5.

No food during the previous 23 hrs. Only water, no sugar free drinks. Maybe slew of vitamins with water.


Ate a medium size salad sauteed, a few nuts, 1/2 turkey thigh. large section turkey skin, shrimp with diced cuke in mayo, 2 lg red grapes, 1 cup ricotta with 5 lg blackberries.

Ate from 1-2 . Took my vitamins just before 2.

Started to feel groogy, and fell asleep!!! This isn't supposed to happen.

ps. was worried this would happen today, as I started to fee l a little "tired" after yesterdays meal, but not as strong as today.
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Old Fri, Jun-08-18, 01:27
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Sorry I cannot offer an explanation. More fasters complain of insomnia than of being knocked out when they eat. Could you roll with it by having your meal later in the day? This effect may pass off eventually.
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Old Fri, Jun-08-18, 07:11
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Thanks for chiming in.
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Old Fri, Jun-08-18, 07:16
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Have you checked your blood sugar after eating? Even eating a relatively small amount of carbs it is possible that your blood sugar goes high enough to cause you sleepiness. I am really just speculating here since my grasp of the science isn't very deep but it strikes me as a possibility. Perhaps your body will adjust to this change and the sleepiness will go away.
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Old Fri, Jun-08-18, 07:30
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Jean, the spike in BG is also my thought. In CAD, this is not supposed to happen. Eating in order, salad then main meal then starchy/dessert is supposed to be protective. Perhaps one meal a day screws up the response .

ALso DANDR clearly indicates a crash after a higher carb meal is normal and expected---a story about the man who fell asleep driving his car when he stopped at a red light is lazered into my memeory.

In CAD this isnt supposed to happen....
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Old Fri, Jun-08-18, 07:34
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In CAD this isnt supposed to happen....


Sometimes theories are contradicted by experience.
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Old Fri, Jun-08-18, 07:45
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lol. yes, that is true.

However the entire CAD plan is based on tricking the insulin response. sigh.

To test your theory, I Will go LC for a few days and see if that changes the response.
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Old Fri, Jun-08-18, 11:20
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Hi. I have that problem, too. I would never have anything sugary/starchy with a meal unless I was planning on trying to fall asleep within an hour. I actually use this to my advantage when I'm working an odd shift and I otherwise might not be tired early enough. Your meal wasn't terribly high carb, but that would definitely put me to sleep.

I even get sleepy if I eat too large of a LC meal. It's not fun at work. I've had to cut my lunch breaks short and get back to work early because I start nodding off at the table. There's not much I can do but keep the meals modest, even if I think I could eat a horse.

One theory I heard is that with any substantial food intake, your body has to rather suddenly increase circulation to your stomach and intestines. With less blood flow to the brain, you get sleepy.
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I've recently been having a similar experience - I'm going to have to take notes on my sleepiness to see if I'm eating something that's doing it. I eat 2 meals & it's only after my afternoon meal that I get sleepy - but not every day. It's odd, because I've been pretty wide awake with lc.
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Old Fri, Jun-08-18, 17:04
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Its like ying and yang--- full of peppy energy, then zonked out. Is this narcalAepsy???? just kidding.

Again I only know with certainty that Atkins says to not binge on carbs after a time on lc. Causes a spike in insulin, then a characteristic crash in glucose.

My concern is that the RM is exactly that.
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Old Tue, Jun-12-18, 07:54
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Its like ying and yang--- full of peppy energy, then zonked out. Is this narcalAepsy???? just kidding.

Again I only know with certainty that Atkins says to not binge on carbs after a time on lc. Causes a spike in insulin, then a characteristic crash in glucose.

My concern is that the RM is exactly that.

I wonder if it's in part due to being omad right now? The balance/control of insulin from the Heller's plans comes in 1) not eating more often than every 90 minutes, 2) being done eating within 60 minutes (you get a second wave of insulin release at 70 minutes), and the balance of the rm is to control the amount of carbs your body is processing (my interpretation). If you are only doing omad and it's a meal not well balanced as per calp (which I prefer as it was the result of further research they did), I wonder if that was enough for this carbo-fog?
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Old Tue, Jun-12-18, 07:59
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I follow the RM rules when I eat OMAD. Trying to recreate Rachels one meal a day that was so sucessful for her.
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Old Tue, Jun-12-18, 08:06
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Bringing this over..

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The two thoughts I have are - I react differently depending on the carb. I.e. I can tolerate rice without having the same reaction I will have to a piece of white bread.
Second thought - nothing like that happens to me *except* carb fog. If I way overcarb, I am toast (lol), and out of it. If it's really bad, I can't stay awake, if it's mild, I simply get a slight increase in heart rate, and a foggy feeling in the back of my head. It's a very dependable "you overcarbed' notification system!
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When I first started fasting with OMAD, if I got up too quickly from a sitting position I felt dizzy. It didn't last very long though. Maybe a few days and then my body adjusted. Hopefully, yours will adjust to it as well.
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Old Tue, Jun-12-18, 15:58
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I suspect the is liniked to too high carb level and I will never be able to do CAD, or true OMAD.

Basically limited to DANDR one meal a day.
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