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Old Tue, Jul-21-20, 14:39
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Plan: Paleoish Pescatarian
Stats: 179/157.4/127 Female 57
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Progress: 42%
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There is nothing to fear. By the time you get to maintenance, all the good food choices, habits and routines you learned along the way are ingrained. I think the hardest part of maintenance, at least for me, is finding others to compare notes with. The maintainers don't post much. It's a lot less exciting to say "I'm eating the same old thing and weigh the same old amount" - kind of anticlimactic. But it gives me happy butterflies and great self-confidence and a sense of achievement to realize that since this same time last year, I have not only maintained but peeled off another 5-6 lb just doing the same-o same-o. After years of searching for the answer, I'm living it.


Thank you for this post! I am no where near maintenance, but I rebounded almost immediately during my last foray into LC, so I am also interested in how others maintain. I am currently eating now how I would like to eat forever for the most part. I do really miss fruit, particularly the tropical fruits I used to eat often as a South Florida resident, so I am hoping I can indulge a bit more freely in those in maintenance. Have you ever found yourself needing/wanting to add more carbs by way of fruits or other high-carb plant foods? Also, I've read about the negative impacts of long-term low LC on thyroid function, but I am hoping I can avoid that since I eat plenty of vegetables. Have you seen any other changes as a result of long-term LC that have required you to add in additional? These are also directed at anyone in maintenance (there isn't much activity in that section), including the lovely Bluesinger whose story was so inspirational to read!
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Old Tue, Jul-21-20, 15:14
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Plan: TheraKeto~Atkins72
Stats: 170/137/140 Female 62 inches
BF:24%
Progress: 110%
Location: Nevada Desert, USA
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I wish I could say that Maintenance is easy for me, but it isn't. Last Fall was really hard and I was off my plan often. Too often.

My downfall is dairy, even very high-fat dairy. I have very few chewing teeth so dairy is easier on my mouth than meat. I don't gain actual pounds, but I gain "puff" and it's always in the same places. I know it isn't good for me and I know that because I crave it. What I crave the most is my poison.

I just looked back over my online health records and see that over the past three years my weight in clothes at the doctor's office has fluctuated only 5 lbs. For somebody like me, that's miraculous. I have to eat VLC to maintain. But I'm old, and the alternative to eating this way is stark. Eat LCHF and be pain-free, able to walk and run or eat SAD and be a weak, old cripple ending up in assisted living.
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Old Fri, Jul-24-20, 18:54
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Plan: Atkins Maintenance
Stats: 240/198/205 Female 5'11"
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Progress: 120%
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... I'm old, and the alternative to eating this way is stark. Eat LCHF and be pain-free, able to walk and run or eat SAD and be a weak, old cripple ending up in assisted living.


Glenda, I couldn't have said it better! I have strayed from time to time, trying things like oatmeal or chick pea pasta. Not only are they gateway drugs for me, but they cause joint pain and sometimes reflux. There's no doubt that they're the culprits.

Curlybri, about fruit: If you're doing paleo, then by all means try a little fruit as long as it fits in your daily carb allowance and it agrees with you/doesn't cause any ill effect. My sweet spot is around 40-45 g NC daily, so I can very comfortably eat strawberries and raspberries on a fairly regular basis and also enjoy chunks of melon, wedges of citrus fruit or a small plum or nectarine once in a while. I live in a warm climate as well and find fruit so refreshing. If you want to count grape tomatoes as fruit, you can easily include them, too.

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Old Sun, Jul-26-20, 07:46
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Plan: Atkins DANDR/ Candida
Stats: 300/197.8/172 Female 67
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Progress: 80%
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Glenda and Barb -- love your comments.

Glenda - I so agree with the gateway drug thing. I did the Candida elimination diet to determin trigger foods and could feel the bloat happening as soon as they hit my stomach when it was a trigger. Waist could be 4 inches bigger by morning!

Barb - you and I have similar thresholds and tolerances with the fruit. I have even been able to eat an occasional half an apple, etc and still lose if I am watching the rest of the day;s carbs and not eating at the upper levels of the other gray area foods for me (like cheese)

Curly, I would try small quantities, every other day of a fruit you miss (One at a time) and see what effects they have on how you feel, your weight, and your cravings. If you try the food 3 times in a week and have no red flags, you can probably keep it in your permanent diet. If you do have a red flag, like weight gain, cravings or bloat, then you know you need to proceed with caution.
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Old Sun, Jul-26-20, 07:48
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Plan: Atkins DANDR/ Candida
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I am about 30 pounds from goal but am LOVING this thread because I want to be prepared both mentally and physically for maintenance.

I love Barbara Loots description as "relentless". Yes our sleeping dragon is there all the time! It will always be there so getting to goal doesn't mean I get to eat "Normally" again -- cuz normally will get me 20 pounds fast! I am continually amazed at the number of folks who do all the work to lose but don't get that part.

Glenda -- I definitely identify with the child thing of what can I get away with? I have had those moments of thinking well maybe in maintenance I can have this, or have that glass of wine with dinner. But the closer I get the more I realize that maybe I can have a glass of wine at Christmas dinner or a New Years toast, but it is not going to be a regular thing. Just can't because I am going to need to be an abstainer in a lot of things too. Question for you...how do you keep your Calcium intake at sufficient levels with the severe dairy restrictions. I am in the same boat on dairy so I need to figure this out. I do weight lift and walk so the exercise side is fine but was wondering if I need a Calcium supplement

Seeing the challenges and encouragement from those of you in maintenance is such a Godsend as I approach my goal. Thank you all for your insight and suggestions!

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Old Tue, Jul-28-20, 15:55
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Plan: Atkins Maintenance
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... Question for you...how do you keep your Calcium intake at sufficient levels w ith the severe dairy restrictions. I am in the same boat on dairy so I need to figure this out. I do weight lift and walk so the exercise side is fine but was wondering if I need a Calcium supplement

Seeing the challenges and encouragement from those of you in maintenance is such a Godsend as I approach my goal. Thank you all for your insight and suggestions!


Canned wild caught pink Alaskan salmon (including the skin and bones) is a great staple food and a very good source of calcium. Same with canned sardines and mackerel. They are also wonderful omega-3 foods. You can also get your calcium from many different fortified nondairy milks like coconut and almond. Check the nutrition labels.

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Old Tue, Jul-28-20, 16:06
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Plan: TheraKeto~Atkins72
Stats: 170/137/140 Female 62 inches
BF:24%
Progress: 110%
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We have all been victims of advertising over the decades. They make things up, throw them at us over media and eventually, we end up believing what they made up as fact.

Truth is that none of us is on the verge of malnutrition and most of us don't need supplements at all. External, non-food calcium when not needed can be damaging. I gave up calcium supplements years ago and my lumbar spine is stronger today (according to my Dexascan) than it was in 2012. Our bodies are marvelous machines and as long as we don't abuse them, they do the right thing to keep us healthy.
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Old Thu, Jul-30-20, 19:44
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Plan: Atkins DANDR/ Candida
Stats: 300/197.8/172 Female 67
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Thank you both for the replies! I do weight training and try to eat a lot of broccoli and other veggie sources for calcium. Barb, I havent had the danned salmon since I was a kid, Going to have to try it again. I also pulverized some egg shells into a fine powder and mixed then with water. EVen after the heavier particles sink there are some suspended in the water. I use that in stocks. Not sure how much calcium it gives me but if they are cleaned organic shells, cant hurt I guess
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