Fri, Nov-22-19, 09:05
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Plan: mostly milkfat
Stats: 190/152.4/154
BF:
Progress: 104%
Location: Ontario
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If you have the sort of type II, diet-related diabetes he's talking about--prove, by his definition, that you weren't born with it. Anyways--can't go back to eating carbs without developing it again? He's making some assumptions here. Who says you can't?
If you just have good blood sugar eating keto, and haven't lost an appreciable amount of weight--well that's one sort of remission, not reversal. If you have results more like the Newcastle studies, with reversal of liver and pancreatic fat--those people certainly did eat carbs, even while reversing their diabetes. And can eat carbs at the end of the study without diabetic blood sugars. They can't go back to the diet that over time gave them diabetes. I think a ketogenic diet at that point would likely make it easier for a lot of them to not re-develop diabetes. There might be higher carb approaches that would do the same, at least for some people--but ultimately they would have to be as strict, in their own way, as a ketogenic diet or else the heavy societal/environmental pressure that got them in trouble in the first place is likely to get them back into trouble. Cans of cool whip and pineapple everywhere you look... which actually still sounds pretty yummy to me, though I wouldn't eat them.
If you're a diabetic with good blood sugar numbers because you eat ketogenically, that's good. If you've lost 50 pounds on a ketogenic diet and reversed fatty liver and pancreas and can now tolerate carby meals without elevated blood sugar, that's good too. If you can't eat a carby diet on a regular basis and maintain this--that's a criticism of carby diets, if anything. Or maybe that's just my bias. It's not even, like I said, maybe there are higher carb approaches that would work as well for the individual. Maybe getting a little greedy, like wanting to win the lottery twice.
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