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Old Mon, Feb-29-16, 09:09
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Janet, I'd not realized Fung was recommending 20-30% protein for the "older folks". Was that in one of his blog posts or the book?


I was wondering about that too. I just ordered his book but haven't received it yet. I've been averaging 60 gms of protein a day which comes to around 15% of my diet. There sure are a lot of opinions about how much protein is the correct amount but nothing seems definitive so I am tying to just relax about it and eat what feels right to me.

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Old Mon, Feb-29-16, 09:20
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Which brings us back to Dr Fung's flexible protein guidelines of 20-30% of calories for us old folks

So that's about 1/3rd protein to 2/3 vegetables for us low carbers. Same recommendations as Dr. Wm. Davis in his book, specifically in the chapter called "Bone Breaker".
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Old Mon, Feb-29-16, 09:59
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So that's about 1/3rd protein to 2/3 vegetables for us low carbers. Same recommendations as Dr. Wm. Davis in his book, specifically in the chapter called "Bone Breaker".


Are you talking by calories? By weight? By volume? Do we have any room for fat?
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Old Mon, Feb-29-16, 10:03
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no, no yes, yes
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Old Tue, Mar-01-16, 05:21
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Liz, by "older folks" I only meant "not children" where the worry is not growing...we are instead worried about growing sideways.
Dr Fung mentioned 20-30% somewhere in the beginning of the book, and again in his What To Eat section, page 230, Moderate Your Protein. Protein to be 20-30 % of total calories, which isn't all that "moderate" seems normal LC, or any diet, to me.

Then I have Dr Hyman's new book...where he goes on and on about being "pegan", load your plate with veggies, blah, blah..and then recommends 1.5g per Kg of body weight, or 100-120g of protein for average person. His breakfast smoothies don't have added protein powder, so you would need three big protein meals or snacks after that. I haven't gone through the menus with a calculator but his plan is fuzzy too. Same confusion with Dr Fung, if I fast three alternate days, with M-W-F only dinner, I would think it hard to average 100g of protein a day.
I'm going to be like Jean and stop worrying about how much protein, my blood work and everything else. Great weather, walked five miles on the beach yesterday, so I am Zen about wonky tests and my diet.

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Old Tue, Mar-01-16, 08:55
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Hmmm, totally missed the 20-30 at the beginning of the book and am not to the What to Eat section yet, but it sounds like everyone is falling within the Protein chart in NANY (still a valuable reference I think).

I've quit measuring/tracking food entirely in the past year, but generally eat 3-4 oz of protein per meal plus what I might get from nuts. I bet if I tracked I'd be right at 100 g. I may worry about my glucose, but I quit worrying about protein a long time ago. As long as I keep carbs low, I'm good enough.
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Recent information about protein quantity, gluconeogenesis, and metabolic impact of macros. This late 2018 interview with Bikman from HIH puts many things in perspective. Gluconeogenesis are necessary for health:

Good discussion starts at 19:30:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zX3tfuKIlo

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Old Sun, Jun-23-19, 21:09
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Well worth my time to listen. Thanks for the link.
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Old Sun, Jun-23-19, 23:04
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I follow some of the bodybuilding forums. Yes, they have keto subforums. One of the main mantras in bodybuilding is to have .7 to 1.0 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass each day. The numbers in this thread are pretty close to the bodybuilding forums.
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