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Old Fri, Apr-16-21, 05:03
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Plan: Carnivore
Stats: 212/179/160 Female 5'6"
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Congrats, Janet! You'll make a great moderator for the site. I, too, have taken a total break from the finger poking (but not from the eating/fasting).
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Old Fri, Apr-16-21, 10:11
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Plan: P:E/DDF
Stats: 225/150/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/28%/25%
Progress: 134%
Location: NC
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I won’t be bored as a moderator for 3 groups. Marty did a good 2 part interview with the Ketogenic Girl, who has a half million followers across her platforms! And many other podcasts, plus Dr Naiman. So the April challenge has sailed by 1000 and members are piling on.
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Old Fri, Apr-16-21, 11:37
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Plan: P:E=>1 (Q3-22)
Stats: 168/100/82 Male 182cm
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Progress: 79%
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How is maintenance going for you? I decided to pause completely, no finger pricks, back on that naughty wine with dinner, some dark chocolate and yet I was only up a pound this morning. I’ll take it! I am fasting until 11-noon, so maybe the days total is balanced by less intake of the bad things.

910 people signed up so far for the Challenge that starts Saturday.

Marty knows I Admin another FB group and asked me to moderate in this challenge. It's a fun group, but now I feel compelled to crank out some more progress, break 160 or bust

Seeing you admining away Janet. Big task, wtg!

I'd in maint mode the the higher trigger target going, great - not hard to make it happen and losing weight in the mean time. I'm playing with some carbs today to test post meal BG - I'm planning on strict by the meter eating upcoming session, begins tomorrow baseline.
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Old Mon, Apr-19-21, 13:27
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Plan: P:E=>1 (Q3-22)
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Last day of Baselining!
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Old Mon, Apr-19-21, 14:54
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Plan: P:E/DDF
Stats: 225/150/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/28%/25%
Progress: 134%
Location: NC
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Last day of Baselining!
. Thank goodness, I'm exhausted. I figured the first two days of baselining and the first two days of hunger training would be a many questions, many repeated questions, but they don't stop.
Glad you both are doing OK and back to chasing your trigger.
I paused for the break and in two days my trigger dropped another point. So now I don't reach it until 1 or 2pm, and there goes my two meals a day...ugh. One main meal and a yogurt, protein "dessert". See how this goes.
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Old Tue, Apr-20-21, 08:26
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Plan: DDF, P:E
Stats: 237.5/179.4/150 Female 64
BF:55.7%/47.5%/?
Progress: 66%
Location: WA
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I’m 3.9 lbs down since day 1...unbelievable. I’m the worlds slowest loser! Hope the downward trend continues. d
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Old Tue, Apr-20-21, 08:56
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Plan: P:E=>1 (Q3-22)
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WTG Iceberg!

Most shed water pertty fast concentrating on eating protein and less energy dense food. At least that's the way it works for me. Comes back just as fast - however, over the long haul, fat is being used for fuel if that's your goal. It's a ton of fun.

One of my objectives (as doing this the second time with group) is to move my first meal as far forward into the day as possible according to hunger and not drop too far below trigger.

Second objective is related to the first and that is getting second meal in earlier and eating less if it's later. My waking bg still hovering around 100 3 days after 2 high carb days at end of Maintenance - Eating early and/or light if late really works on that number for me, this also allows potential for even earlier meal the next day on account of hunger and likely lower BG to start day.
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Old Thu, Apr-22-21, 07:28
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Plan: P:E/DDF
Stats: 225/150/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/28%/25%
Progress: 134%
Location: NC
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Good Morning all you Fasters! I'm sure Thud and Iceberg will ace this challenge leaderboard. Amazingly I went below my original goal weight of 160 (from 10 years ago) this morning. To keep the one pound scale difference between my regular scale and the Renpho, (yes, that one pound is critical because today I'm below 160 ) Now in a 23 BMI range, each pound is hard fought.

I am still not hitting my trigger until 1-2pm so it has been one protein and veg meal and one yogurt with Protein powder later. At this point, my intention would be to go back to two full meals but sticking with the plan for this month! See what happens.

Posted on Ted Naiman's thread too...great new podcast on Protein from DietDoctor.

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Old Thu, Apr-22-21, 22:09
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Plan: DDF, P:E
Stats: 237.5/179.4/150 Female 64
BF:55.7%/47.5%/?
Progress: 66%
Location: WA
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I dropped nearly another pound this morning. My FBG was 86. I guess I'm doing something right.

It was easy peasy getting under my target today. It told me to add some carbs, so I did a few for my evening meal. Ate later than I would normally. So a couple small spoons of rice and beans and jumped to 121 an hr after...so now I know those are off my list of what to eat.

So if we stay below our target, like I did for most of the day, does that mean I was burning onboard fat all day? I've not eaten much fat since I started since I have tons of it to lose.

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Old Fri, Apr-23-21, 05:06
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Plan: P:E/DDF
Stats: 225/150/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/28%/25%
Progress: 134%
Location: NC
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Most likely....if you have drained the first three of your onboard fuels..you were tapping into the big storage tank. This is in the Guides as one of the BEST articles...and it is.

https://optimisingnutrition.com/oxi...ctive-fat-loss/
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Old Fri, Apr-23-21, 07:26
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Plan: P:E=>1 (Q3-22)
Stats: 168/100/82 Male 182cm
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Progress: 79%
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Great work Iceberg and Janet, stoked for you guys. I'm getting back into my groove. I had food yesterday morning just under my "highish" trigger (for now, it drops pretty fast Iceberg in a few days if you're consistently hitting under) but it was not enough fuel for a full day on the water, I brought my meter along and measured 80 and thought crap, too far under trigger - And I was really hungry

This is not the place I want to be. Way below trigger and hungry - I ate 80g of dry roasted peanuts on the way home as part of my meal. After punching that into cronometer those were 25 percent of my energy intake for for the day and they didn't really fill me up - way to easy to eat 500kcal

I'm starting to see what Marty is talking about. I used to eat peanuts all the time. 80g is like 3oz - not a huge bunch.

If you're eating peanuts or peanut butter you better be working your ass off - There's a few interesting minerals and B3 in them so not all bad but so much energy in terms of fat.

Fat is not bad at all for energy but I have many, many grams of fat throughout my body that I'd rather use for energy... but peanuts are SO GOOD to eat. I could way more than 80g haha
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Old Fri, Apr-23-21, 07:37
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Plan: DDF, P:E
Stats: 237.5/179.4/150 Female 64
BF:55.7%/47.5%/?
Progress: 66%
Location: WA
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Most likely....if you have drained the first three of your onboard fuels..you were tapping into the big storage tank. This is in the Guides as one of the BEST articles...and it is.

https://optimisingnutrition.com/oxi...ctive-fat-loss/


Thank you for the link. All I know is this seems to be working for me. I hope I don’t jinx myself...
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Old Fri, Apr-23-21, 09:26
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Plan: P:E/DDF
Stats: 225/150/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/28%/25%
Progress: 134%
Location: NC
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there are four website articles in a Guide, all 4 of them are very helpful.
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Old Fri, Apr-23-21, 12:20
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Plan: Carnivore
Stats: 212/179/160 Female 5'6"
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Progress: 63%
Location: Rural Maine
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Well, I missed the start of the current challenge because I got tired of all the finger sticks. I was doing well it getting at or below my trigger consistently before eating. Then I got my first Covid shot 4 weeks ago. My waking BG jumped more than 10 points and even if I fasted for 18 hours it wouldn't come down anywhere near my trigger so I ate anyway. It was just starting to even out again when the March challenge ended.

So today I got my final injection, and I assume the readings will be wonky again for about a week. I'm kind of planning on doing baseline again around the first of May. I pop onto the FB page from time to time to see what's new, but am not really participating.

Cheering you guys on from the sidelines for now!
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Old Fri, Apr-23-21, 12:58
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Plan: P:E/DDF
Stats: 225/150/169 Female 5' 9"
BF:45%/28%/25%
Progress: 134%
Location: NC
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OK, take care. We have had a number of posts about the CoVid impact on BG. All over the map. Yes/no based on manufacturer, age, and some where the first or second was bad, and not the other.
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