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Old Wed, Oct-26-22, 07:12
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Default Why nutrition is NHL players' new secret weapon

This sounds very familiar. An "individual outlook on each person . . ."

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GYURAN WORKS WITH players across every major sport, each with their own motivations for seeking out an alternative health approach but with a common goal of maximizing their potential. That requires taking an individual outlook on each person and getting down to the nitty-gritty of what makes their body tick.


https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id...w-secret-weapon

Many on this forum know how people uniquely respond to different types of foods and while there are many traits common among us, fine tuning our unique nutritional needs is the challenge. I'd love to have a full analysis that Gyuran and others provide, but that would mean I'd have to start playing hockey again. Wonder if I can sign with the Bruins . . . ? The alternative is to become immersed in the Optimising Nutrition approach with Marty and the ON team. The food tolerance and genetic testing is very interesting and something I'll explore.
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Old Wed, Oct-26-22, 07:43
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. The food tolerance and genetic testing is very interesting and something I'll explore.


Recently had a blood test looking for allergies. A different approach than skin pricking which I had done years ago. Oddly the "allergy" scores picked up one allergen in both tests, but original showed horses and feathers and several other mild reactions which recent test did not. (I have had both horses and chickens for years before either testing ).

No mention of foods. Though I would like a list of what was included in the test for allergens.

Food intolerances is intriguing. Dr Gundry mentions lectins...... OFTEN! Made me take a hard look at recipes for tomatoes and beans. Beans are complicated and the safety of consumption is complicated: we eat green beans safely but to eat a raw kidney bean is mildly toxic, like to hospital with cramps. Which led me to watching Patty Jinich closely : Mexican cooking uses well cooked tomatoes, beans and peppers. And when exploring bean varieties to grow as a staple crop, many old varieties are used as "shell" beans, the stage between pod eating stage and dried bean stage and apparently a staple food historically in the south of the US.

How food items are prepared seems to matter. Certainly more to investigate there .

Otherwise, food intolerances can be connected to a leaky gut, microbiome diversity and pesticide/ herbacide load of the food item. I push my kids to take probiotics, and even my dogs get a regular dose added to their food.

Dairy. With a little sleuthing, it was easy to find dairy is a problem for the majority of adults. This search was triggered when an old village healer in 1920's Lithuania frowned upon dairy for adults. Made me think. And try to research via Mr Google. With 50% of my genes from Scandinavia, dairy seems to be safe to eat as it has been a staple food for a very long time in the far north.

I stumbled upon a book on library shelf called " eating for your boodtype". Sceptical, I passed on that title many times until I could not ignore it any longer. Again skeptical reading the thing. Not convinced but aware in the years after, I'm more convinced blood type can tell what foods to eat and which to avoid. It's where I learned how rare the AB is, and why. Both sided of my family are from strong AB areas. ( Recently learned thanks to recent interest in Ukraine, that while vikings from Norway traveled west to raid, the Seeded traveled down thru Poland, thru Ukraine and into Italy area.) So.....dairy seems to be safe for me. Though I'm keen on finding raw organic sources. Which is a challenge!

Makes for a complicated project to tackle. And very individual.

Given the above I'm interested in more exploration....

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Fascinating information, Ms Arielle. Since it's only the two of us, and DH is on Dr. Sarah Myhill's metabolic healing diet:

Podcast episode:
https://www.drcourtneycraig.com/blo...dr-sarah-myhill

And DH is doing very well -- basically keto and an emphasis on protein. It's let us simplify our menu and the more I fuss over ingredients, the better it all tastes.

DH has been trying the Dr. Jack Kruse hormone reset. We both get 50 grams of protein first thing in the morning to send all the right signals for a busy day.

Then, I have have an adequate morning
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"Basically, all of my guys eat a Paleo-ish [diet]," she said. "It's all gluten-free, soy-free and mostly dairy-free, with the exception of eating grass-fed butter and ghee sometimes. It's refined-sugar-free and mostly grain-free. They'll have white rice occasionally. But the focus is on high-quality organic grass-fed proteins. Starchy veggies and fruits are the carbohydrate sources. I find that a lot of athletes feel better on that."

I was almost afraid to click on this article, that it would have been too much vegan woo-woo.

Frankly, I'm surprised this seems to be coming more from the players themselves and not the teams. Only half of NHL teams have nutrition specialists? I'm amazed that in pro sports, every team isn't doing this. Players are famously treated like assets. It can be borderline exploitive. When you're pouring millions of dollars into these guys, and profits are dependent on winning, there's an attitude of milking every last ounce of success out of them. If a guy is missing games or under-performing because of things that can be contributed at least partially to diet, doesn't it sound like a no-brainer to get them on board with a nutrition plan of some sort? It really only costs them the salary of a few professionals like those described in the article.

I love how this article is positioned right above one about Phil Kessel, who just broke the NHL record for consecutive games played. Hockey is obviously a high-injury sport, so this is no small feat. He's built like a tank. He's also been the butt of jokes and fat-phobia because he's a chunky dude. I'd love to peek into HIS kitchen.
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Far too many are invested in the calorie hypothesis. Nutrition is still seen solely in terms of Deprivation or Not when it comes to vitamin deficiency.
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On a similar note, one the Premier League's elite footballer's here in the UK likes to pack in the nutrients!


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Can eating offal give you a body like Erling Haaland?

Packed with more iron, protein, vitamins and minerals than fillet steak, this ‘throwaway food’ is the Norwegian superstar’s weapon of choice


Raheem Sterling is a mac and cheese fan, Beth Mead likes an omelette, Rachel Daly is fueled by four Weetabix. If a footballer’s diet is as important as their footwork, Manchester City’s Erling Haaland has a novel approach to becoming a Premier League superstar. The secret, it transpires, to his extraordinary goal record (20 in 12 games and counting) lies in his primal approach to food – for while his fellow players might rely on lean chicken and plenty of pasta to get them up and down the pitch, the Norwegian striker likes to tuck into a bit of ox heart or a slice of liver. With his salary of £865,000 a week he could live off prime fillet steaks alone, but Haaland has revealed he likes to have a steady supply of cheap, mineral-rich offal.

In a new documentary, Haaland: The Big Decision, the footballer shows off hunks of liver and heart fresh from his butcher. “You don’t eat this, but I am concerned with taking care of my body. I think eating quality food that is as local as possible is the most important.

“People say meat is bad for you but which? The meat you get at McDonald’s? Or the local cow eating grass right over there? I eat the heart and the liver.”

It seems slightly incongruous, the idea of a footballer being a fully paid up member of the “eat local, eat regenerative, eat grass-fed” gang, but the 22-year-old, who consumes 6,000 calories a day, is passionate – and offal isn’t the only thing he swears by. He has opinions on hydration too (he likes to filter his water) and is very into circadian rhythms – he insists on getting sunlight in his eyes as soon as he wakes up every morning.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-...n-city-striker/

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It seems slightly incongruous, the idea of a footballer being a fully paid up member of the “eat local, eat regenerative, eat grass-fed” gang, but the 22-year-old, who consumes 6,000 calories a day, is passionate – and offal isn’t the only thing he swears by. He has opinions on hydration too (he likes to filter his water) and is very into circadian rhythms – he insists on getting sunlight in his eyes as soon as he wakes up every morning.


Since this is a club of which I am a member, welcome friend!
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I love how this article is positioned right above one about Phil Kessel, who just broke the NHL record for consecutive games played. Hockey is obviously a high-injury sport, so this is no small feat. He's built like a tank. He's also been the butt of jokes and fat-phobia because he's a chunky dude. I'd love to peek into HIS kitchen.

Love Phil. He marches to a different beat. Very disappointed when he was traded by the Bruins, and always root for him to this day. Very down to earth. Yes, his nutrition "plan" is likely fascinating. Doubt he'll be writing a cookbook after he retires . . . .
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