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Fast food fever: how ultra-processed meals are unhealthier than you think

UPFs form 50% of Britons’ calorie intake – and vegans beware, this includes many plant-based meals. Now food scientists are learning more about what makes them so damaging


For a long time it has been known that diets dominated by ultra-processed food (UPF) are more likely to lead to obesity. But recent research suggests that high UPF consumption also increases the risk of cardiovascular disease, dementia and, according to a recent American study involving 50,000 health professionals, of developing colon cancer.

On a more general note, last month a study in Nature Reviews Clinical Oncology found that people born after 1990 are more likely to develop cancer before they’re 50 than people born before 1970. It’s suspected that UPF might be a contributing factor to this development.

As the UK is estimated to draw more than 50% of its calorie intake from UPF, this is no passing health scare but an issue that goes to the very heart of our culinary lifestyle. But before looking deeper into the issue there is an obvious question: what is a UPF?

NOVA (not an acronym) is a widely used food classification system that separates foods into four categories based upon their level of processing. Almost all foods, aside from fresh fruit and raw vegetables, undergo some degree of process. Cooking is a process, and it usually involves added ingredients such as oil and salt.

In NOVA’s first category, Group 1 is unprocessed or minimally processed foods (fruit, vegetables, meat, eggs, milk). Group 2 is made up of processed culinary ingredients such as sugars, oils and butter. Group 3 is processed foods (canned vegetables and fish, bread, jam). Group 4 is ultra-high processed foods, which are mostly low in protein and fibre, and high in salt, sugar and fat, and have undergone industrial interventions such as extrusion, moulding and milling.

Writing in his book Spoon-Fed, the King’s College epidemiologist Tim Spector notes: “The ultra-processed nature of modern food generally means that the complex structure of the plant and animal cells is destroyed, turning it into a nutritionally empty mush that our body can process abnormally rapidly.”

Spector’s King’s College colleague Dr Sarah Berry is a nutrition expert in the area of cardio-metabolic health. She is not uncritical of NOVA’s system of classification, which has been beset by problems of blurry distinctions and subjective application, but she says: “There is very clear observational data showing that people who have higher intakes of ultra-processed foods have higher levels of ill-health, whether it be cancer, cardiovascular disease, high blood pressure, obesity or type 2 diabetes.”

Berry is at pains to acknowledge that, while the problem of UPF may be scientifically well-established, it isn’t easy, on an individual level, to deal with. After all, UPFs are so prevalent that stripping them completely out of our diet would be a logistical and time-consuming nightmare. What’s more, people enjoy their convenience, and often relish their industrially enhanced taste.

One illustration of how they have penetrated food in all areas is the rise of vegan cuisine, which in recent years has been mass-produced and carefully marketed. Yet so many of the glossily packaged plant-based substitutes are in fact UPFs.

“Look at oat milk, for example,” says Berry, citing a popular substitute for cow’s milk. “Its original structure has been taken out and it’s full of additives.”

As Sophie Medlin, dietitian and chair of the London branch of the British Dietetic Association has said: “The more you’re trying to make something imitate something that it’s not, the more processing it’s going to have to go through.”

While acknowledging the benefits of cutting down on saturated fats that veganism brings, Medlin also said that it has become much easier to be a very unhealthy vegan.

But why should processing be damaging to health? Not so long ago the main criticism about UPF was that it lacked nutritional substance, and to counter that absence so-called healthy nutrients were added. Now food science is looking more closely at the different ways that natural food structures and ultra-processed foods are broken down by the human body.

One theory is that food with its natural structure removed is the cause of inflammation, the body’s defence response to infection. A recent study that involved 20,000 Italian adults found that those with the highest consumption of UPF had the greatest risk of dying prematurely from any cause. It also found that inflammatory markers, such as higher white blood cell count, were most pronounced in those whose diets had the highest levels of UPF.

Berry has conducted many years of research in food-induced inflammation. She warns of the pseudo-science behind many so-called anti-inflammatory diets, but says there is also some very solid science that underpins the concern about UPF and inflammation.

“When you consume a high-fat or high-carbohydrate meal you have something called postprandial lipemia, which is the increase in circulating triglycerides and fat in the blood, and postprandial glycemic, which is an increase in circulating glucose.”

These increases bring about an inflammatory response.

“That’s normal,” says Berry. “The problem is if it’s in the wrong place at the wrong time and excessive. That predisposes us to these chronic diseases, like type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease and even cancer.”

One of the big breakthroughs in understanding food nutrition in the 21st century is a greater understanding of the microbiome, the mostly gut-based micro-organisms that play a vital part in the digestion process. It’s known that some food additives such as sweeteners and emulsifiers commonly found in ultra-processed foods cause changes to the microbiome that increase inflammation.

Some researchers believe that inflammation increases because the body responds to elements of UPF as though they were a pathogen, as it would with an invading bacteria. This increase in inflammation throughout the body has been called “fast food fever”.

However, it’s not a straightforward picture of what might be termed pathogenic fast food. The American colon cancer study did not establish a link between increased inflammation and men consuming the most ultra-processed food, but inflammation is closely linked with an increased risk of colon cancer.

Berry says that one complicating factor is that it’s not ingredients per se that necessarily cause inflammation, but the form the ingredients take.

“If you take, for example, whole oats and ground oats, they have identical back-of-the-pack labelling and the same NOVA classification. When people are fed whole oats you get a very blunted blood sugar, blood glucose response. When they’re fed finely ground oats you get this massive peak in glucose, then a dip, an increase in hunger, and this increase in inflammation. This is because processed food breaks down the food structure, breaks down what we call the ‘food matrix’. And you get totally different effects on inflammation as a result of the structure of the food.”

The more time the body spends in an inflammatory state, the greater the risk of chronic diseases. Nutritionists are divided about what the most effective approach is to take to the threat provided by UPFs. Purists argue that the only surefire response is to the cut them right out of the diet, or cut them right down. But as they currently make up 50-60% of the western diet, that might be unrealistic.

A more pragmatic school suggests that the ill-effects can be drastically lessened by counterbalancing additives. Berry herself tends towards this kind of dietary realism.

“I live a busy life as a full-time working parent, and my children eat far too much ultra-processed food, but I have to be pragmatic,” she says.

She thinks that food producers can make a number of helpful changes. She cites as an example the ground oatmeal that triggered the inflammatory response.

“If I was to add to that oatmeal some red wine or some dark chocolate or other kind of polyphenol-rich food, you actually suppress that inflammation, you counterbalance it, so you kind of put out that fire. And ultra-processed foods are lacking those kinds of polyphenols and antioxidants.”

This is not the same as just adding missing nutrients, which has little impact on the inflammatory effects of breaking down the food matrix. Simply adding fibre, says Berry, isn’t nearly as healthy as fibre in its original form. It’s about adding ingredients to inhibit inflammation itself.

“It might sound silly to talk about reformulation given that highly processed foods have all come about because of the food industry reformulating foods, but I think there’s lots of scope for some of the ultra-processed foods to be reformulated to be better.”

She gives the example of sweeteners, which have become more prevalent as a result of the sugar tax, and the creation of no- or low-sugar versions of many products. Research has shown that some sweeteners have unhealthy effects while there are one or two, she says, “that might even have favourable effects”.

While the research, she acknowledges, is not yet concrete, there are enough signs to suggest that distinguishing between the health effects of sweeteners could have beneficial results.

But if adding counter-inflammation ingredients is something that the food industry should look at, it seems as if the government won’t be pushing that policy. Its new message is much more libertarian in outlook and less inclined to draw up guidelines. Liz Truss told the Conservative party conference earlier this month: “I’m not interested in how many two-for-one offers you buy at the supermarket.” And the government has dumped plans for a ban on multi-buy deals on foods high in sugar, salt and fat.

The current traffic-light labelling system does not specifically address the issue of UHPs, and the signs are that people are increasingly dependent on the convenience and ease of UHP food, even if they don’t necessarily recognise that the food is ultra-processed, or that ultra-processing is linked to ill-health.

None of this is going to change overnight, but there needs to be a shift in dietary education, says Berry, if we are to cut back on the use of UPFs. In the long term we as a society will need to rediscover the importance of fresh food ingredients, of cooking, and ultimately the inconvenience – chronic illness and cancer is never welcome – of so much convenience food.

The government may not care what people eat (although it certainly cares about the growing NHS bill for dealing with it) but we will have to be much more attentive about it ourselves. Healthy eating is a big business nowadays, the problem is that a great many products that pass themselves off as healthy – from protein bars to some milk substitutes – are really nothing of the sort.

https://www.theguardian.com/science...han-you-thought
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Why is butter not in Group 1 with the milk it was separated from? Because in their minds it is full of evil saturated fat? It is certainly not as processed as Group 2 industrial seed oils, which are more prone to spoiling and going rancid because of their unsaturated bonds. When will the 'health' "experts" tell us that saturated fats are protective and unsaturated fats are easily oxidized and act in the body like free radicals.

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Why is butter not in Group 1 with the milk it was separated from? Because in their minds it is full of evil saturated fat? It is certainly not as processed as Group 2 industrial seed oils, which are more prone to spoiling and going rancid because of their unsaturated bonds. When will the 'health' "experts" tell us that saturated fats are protective and unsaturated fats are easily oxidized and act in the body like free radicals.

I wondered the same thing. Your conclusion is on the mark. We seem to have been conditioned on evils of saturated fat, and it's become a strong belief system adopted by physicians, nutritionists, and the public has heard it so much that it's no longer questioned.
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“When you consume a high-fat or high-carbohydrate meal you have something called postprandial lipemia, which is the increase in circulating triglycerides and fat in the blood, and postprandial glycemic, which is an increase in circulating glucose.”

It's amusing to know that my triglycerides are extremely low because I eat healthy fats (saturated, monounsaturated, and healthy polyunsaturated in the form of omega 3s), protein, and veggies without any seed oils gumming up my metabolism. I know I'm not alone, so how do they explain that? While I believe that those following the guidelines in this article will be better off, these observations are hardly a revelation on this forum or for people who follow a sound WOE to include ample protein, healthy fats, healthy carbs in the form of low glycemic load vegetables.
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A bit closer infused on the seed oils. While definitely ultra processed via chemical processing, my understanding was because they can be kept indefinitely with out going rancid ie crisco shortening, was what manufacturer s wanted to create shelf stable pasties. What am I missing?





“When you consume a high-fat or high-carbohydrate meal you have something called postprandial lipemia, which is the increase in circulating triglycerides and fat in the blood, and postprandial glycemic, which is an increase in circulating glucose.”


Seems to me these results are not equivalent. High glucose is self evident.

But..

How is high blood lipids a problem?

Imho. Eat real food, whole foods , purchased or grown. Not prepackaged convience " food".

When I talk meals with so n who eats out lunch and dinner, the crew goes to restaurants. He often eats a real salad as his meal. He can eat that s way because he is well paid. An hours work covers two meals. And he s work day typically includes 4-6 hrs ot.

Our food is a problem, and the pay scale to buy better quality food.

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“When you consume a high-fat or high-carbohydrate meal you have something called postprandial lipemia, which is the increase in circulating triglycerides and fat in the blood, and postprandial glycemic, which is an increase in circulating glucose.”


That quote stood out to me too.

I'd love it if they could one day explain the exact metabolic processes by which dietary fat actually increases blood glucose - especially in such a way that it's right up there with a high carb diet in how much it increases blood glucose.





Oh right - it doesn't!
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It would also be nice if we could track where the circulating triglycerides and fat in the blood came from and where are they going. In the absence of dietary glucose, are they being pulled out of storage to be used for energy? That would be a good thing.

Or are they heading from your sugary gut to clog your arteries if they can't be stuffed into your fat stores? That is not good (but not something I need to worry about).

One thing I learned from Marty Kendall's Optimising Nutrition DDF challenges is that if you eat a lot of fat that you don't need for energy on a very LC diet, it does keep your BG stable, but at a higher level for longer after a meal than if you ate less fat and enough carbs to spike and then crash your BG. So you need to look at the area under your BG curve over time and try to lower that by eating less fat if you want to release body fat.

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That quote stood out to me too.

I'd love it if they could one day explain the exact metabolic processes by which dietary fat actually increases blood glucose - especially in such a way that it's right up there with a high carb diet in how much it increases blood glucose.





Oh right - it doesn't!


Lol

I think it was written technically too correctly. Each point was to be assigned to each cause. Should have been written more clearly.

Because everyone made the same conclusion you did.

And we all know high fats cannot create high blood sugars. We could teach this stuff.
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By their definition, great grandma's butter cookies are the same as their Little Debbie versions and that's not true😁

But that's too detailed for people starting oean"Avoid processed foods" might mean an apple instead of a snack cake?
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Lol

I think it was written technically too correctly. Each point was to be assigned to each cause. Should have been written more clearly.

Because everyone made the same conclusion you did.

And we all know high fats cannot create high blood sugars. We could teach this stuff.


Exactly! And I believe that was their intention when it was worded that way.

Dietary fats have long been blamed as the main cause of what's-wrong-with-the-modern-diet, and dietary sugars have only recently been added to the list of problematic foods. Fat of any kind is still being treated as if it's a major problem.

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In NOVA’s first category, Group 1 is unprocessed or minimally processed foods (fruit, vegetables, meat, eggs, milk). Group 2 is made up of processed culinary ingredients such as sugars, oils and butter. Group 3 is processed foods (canned vegetables and fish, bread, jam). Group 4 is ultra-high processed foods, which are mostly low in protein and fibre, and high in salt, sugar and fat, and have undergone industrial interventions such as extrusion, moulding and milling.


^^^This part shows that even perfectly natural fats like butter are not in any way considered to be a bit better than seed oils, and that butter is considered to be every bit as processed (therefore harmful) as sugar.

Part of the "processing" required to produce butter is the exact same process required to produce low fat/fat free milk - and that low fat or fat free milk (which would most likely be pasteurized and homogenized) would still be considered to be minimally processed, even though the cream has been removed and the remaining milk has been super-heated and blasted to break up any remaining cream particles and permanently suspend them in the milk. That to me does not sound like "minimal" processing.

I wonder where cream (HWC) falls in the categorizations - group 1 or group 2? Because the only difference between the cream that is the result of being skimmed from the whole milk and the "processed" butter is churning, something that was historically done at home using a butter churn (Admittedly you also need to work water through the churned butter, "rinsing" it to remove any remaining milk so it keeps better, but that's still nothing like the processing milk goes through during pasteurization and homogenization)

Basically, I still call them out on the idea that butter is processed in any way that is remotely similar to how oils or sugar are processed - it's not even processed as much as the milk that they're considering to be minimally processed.
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Basically, I still call them out on the idea that butter is processed in any way that is remotely similar to how oils or sugar are processed - it's not even processed as much as the milk that they're considering to be minimally processed.


Here are a few nuances.

Long ago, cream was skimmed from fresh whole milk after sitting for a time.

Then if butter was desired product, cream was shaken until it clumped leaving a whey like product around the butter.

Today it's done by machines. Not a churn and arm power.

Milk is more altered. Pasteurization is a heating process. How it is heated varies by two methods. High heat and fast or lower and longer.

Homogenized milks are another process, where the fat globules are made very small so they stay evenly dispersed thruout the liquid.


Maybe "minimally processed" is a better term for mass production milk products. But not home produced. And ya, butter should be in first category.

Some argue that modern milk/ dairy processing has harmed the products. More raw dairy is becoming available but not without pushback from state and federal agencies. But it is a growing option in the US. In Europe they are light years ahead of US, or really, still in the dark ages, producing phenomenal dairy products .

I'm no longer convinced dairy products from big processing facilities are as close to natural as they should be.

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Fell across this recipe from Ciao Italia for marscapone .

It made me think. The levels of processing needs clearly defined words.

Is this now "ultra processed"? Because a citrus juice is added to cream to make marscapone? Like we should not eat????? ( Sarcasm)


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2 cups heavy cream
2 tablespoon fresh squeezed lemon juice
Pinch salt
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Pour the cream into a 1-quart saucepan; attach an instant read thermometer to the side of the pan cook the mixture over low heat until it reaches 180°F. Stir in the lemon juice and continue cooking until the cream thickens and coats the back of a spoon, about 5 to 8 minutes. Stir in the salt. Turn off the heat and allow the cream to cool for about 45 minutes.
Line a fine mesh strainer with cheesecloth or clean towel over a bowl and pour the cream slowly into the cheesecloth. Cover the bowl and refrigerate the cheese for at least 5 hours. Use it within three or four days.


I'm thinking additives should be included in a level of "processed".

Is homemade chicken soup fully canned "processed"? Peeled carrots, peeled potatoes, peeled onions. All chopped. Combined with spices. With chicken legs fresh off the bird.....then canned at high pressure for 90 minutes.

Where is the power of reason...
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Even baby food used to be unseasoned adult food, but pureed. That's processed, but I think every bit as nutritious, no?

We nursed DH's special kitty through her last year with chicken baby food, and I visited this section for the first time in a long time. I was dismayed at the 90% cereal selections that were 90% of this section.
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Here are a few nuances.

Long ago, cream was skimmed from fresh whole milk after sitting for a time.

Then if butter was desired product, cream was shaken until it clumped leaving a whey like product around the butter.

Today it's done by machines. Not a churn and arm power.

Milk is more altered. Pasteurization is a heating process. How it is heated varies by two methods. High heat and fast or lower and longer.

Homogenized milks are another process, where the fat globules are made very small so they stay evenly dispersed thruout the liquid.


Maybe "minimally processed" is a better term for mass production milk products. But not home produced. And ya, butter should be in first category.

Some argue that modern milk/ dairy processing has harmed the products. More raw dairy is becoming available but not without pushback from state and federal agencies. But it is a growing option in the US. In Europe they are light years ahead of US, or really, still in the dark ages, producing phenomenal dairy products .

I'm no longer convinced dairy products from big processing facilities are as close to natural as they should be.



Oh I agree with what you said -


I was going to mention that I grew up with mom making butter, but decided that the post would be getting way too long and involved if I started going into all the details about the cows dad had, butter making, pasteurization and homogenization.

But here we go - mom used a stand mixer set at a fairly low speed to churn the butter, so yeah a machine was involved, but it was still just cream, churned, and washed.

Dad's cows were strep carriers, and because the milk was sold to companies that pasteurized the milk anyway, he didn't have the cows treated for strep. (Due to USDA regulations, when a cow is being treated with antibiotics, you can't sell the milk from that cow, plus the milk needs to continue to be dumped for a certain amount of time after the course of antibiotics has been completed to clear the antibiotics from their systems - the entire herd were carriers, and selling the milk from that small herd was one of our primary sources of income back in the 50's and early 60's, so dumping all the milk for several weeks was not going to happen, especially since the company that bought the milk was going to pasteurize it anyway)

Consequently, because we were drinking the strep-laced milk, all three of us kids had strep almost constantly. Dad finally explained to mom that the cows were strep carriers. A home pasteurizer which held a 1 gallon bucket of milk was purchased, and after that we drank home-pasteurized milk... no more strep!

So IMO, pasteurization does serve a legit purpose - of course that little 1 gallon pasteurizer used a slow and low heating process, whereas most pasteurized milk these days is pasteurized rapidly at a much higher temperature.

However we did not grow up on homogenized milk, something which has never tasted right to me. Mom would skim the cream off the milk to make butter, but whatever little bit of cream she couldn't skim off was stirred back into the pitcher of milk before every meal. (Dad raised mostly herefords, so the butterfat content was only about 3.5%) Not only is the texture not right, homogenized milk is processed in a very unnatural way, just to ensure that any fat content remains suspended in the milk. My take on it is that most people are so disconnected with where food comes from and how it's processed that they would think their milk had gone bad if there was a skim of cream on top of it, and because homogenized is what they're used to, they prefer this unnatural product.
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My take on it is that most people are so disconnected with where food comes from and how it's processed that they would think their milk had gone bad if there was a skim of cream on top of it, and because homogenized is what they're used to, they prefer this unnatural product.


Trying Atkins set me free to eat dairy in my favorite forms: cream and cheese. And my body does well with abundant fat.

And I'm sure it all starts with pasteurized milk, but am I still eating the smashed fat molecules?
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Trying Atkins set me free to eat dairy in my favorite forms: cream and cheese. And my body does well with abundant fat.

And I'm sure it all starts with pasteurized milk, but am I still eating the smashed fat molecules?


According to the carton of cream and packages of cheese I have in the fridge, they're just pasteurized. I'm not finding any specific USDA regulations regarding whether package declaring whether milk used to make cream and cheese have been homogenized or not.

I did find this bit of information though (from a site about making cheese at home):
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In cheesemaking, homogenized milk produces a curd that is weaker than cream-top milk.(The addition of calcium chloride helps to mitigate this effect.) If you have a choice when you purchase milk to make cheese, choose cream-top milk over homogenized.


So it would seem that it's preferred to use milk that has not been homogenized, although for commercial production, it would be possible to use homogenized, depending on the type of cheese being produced, and how much calcium chloride can be added without adversely affecting the flavor, while still producing the type of curd necessary for that cheese.

If for some reason it's not required to disclose homogenization on cheese packaging, then packaging would still need to disclose any additives used to counteract the less desirable curd produced when using homogenized milk.

That's just the best I can figure out from what little info I came across though.
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