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Old Fri, May-24-02, 10:54
bluesky bluesky is offline
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Plan: Schwartzbein
Stats: 168/162/147
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Thumbs up Former Atkins follower loving TSP

In 2000 I did the Atkins Plan and lost 20 pounds. I maintained that loss until Christmas Eve. That day I decided to eat ALL those things that I only got at holiday time. I've been on an 18 month binge ever since!!! (Is that possible?)
In the past few months I've gotten more and more sick of feeling tired, grouchy, headachy, hungry and generally miserable because of my eating habits. I tried going back to Atkins, but I felt nauseous and I didn't lose anything this time. My "gut" feeling was that there had to be a healthier low carb way of eating.
Don't even know where I first heard of SP, but I am so thrilled. It puts togther the low carb WOE and the healthy foods that my body needs. I feel so much better. Bought the book, read it cover to cover. I even got out a highlighter and filled the book with color. SO many things rang true.
It's been 3 weeks and I've lost 5-6 lbs. Nice and slow. More important, I know I'm eating all real foods (except for a bit of Splenda now & then) and I'm being good to my poor body! My energy level is so much better and I can really tell if I've had too many carbs because I can feel it.
Thanks to all of you for your helpful posts. I'm in this for good!!
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Old Fri, May-24-02, 11:02
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 197/195/140 Female 65 inches
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Location: new brunswick, canada
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Hey bluesky!

Just count yourself lucky that you decided to do something about it when you did! The road to slimness will be much shorter for you than it could have been if you waited.

Welcome aboard and hope to hear from you often!

KC
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Old Fri, May-24-02, 11:59
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Plan: My own
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Hi bluesky!

Welcome to the board and TSP...its a great plan and anything that works for you has to be good right?

Keep up the great work and feel free to drop in with questions or to help someone else!

Lisa
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Old Fri, May-24-02, 23:27
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Plan: Anti Schwarzbein
Stats: 180/200/140
BF:44
Progress: -50%
Exclamation Beware of the Schwarz

I hate to be a wet blanket.. but..... I was a patient of Dr. Schwarzbein's... saw her faithfully for 1 year... followed the plan, took the blood test, she even prescribed vitamin B shots every day. I am sorry to say that I went from 180 lbs.. which I thought was awful... to now 200 lbs!

I read the book, booked an appointment with her and waited for 3 months to get into her office. She is beautiful and very nice.. AND very thin. BUT, I asked her and her staff that if for some reason this way of eating didn't work for me... would they say STOP!? They said that they were sure it would work. 30lbs later... here I am, back to sensible eating... not sure which way is the right way.. but I KNOW it's NOT Schwarzbein.

I started October 2000... and stopped December 2001. I haven't gained any more weight.. but am maintaining at steady 200..... I have developed Sleep Apnea because of the fat.. I'm really upset. Please be careful. I'm not saying that it doesn't work for some... because it does. But there are many that it won't work for and you'll be like me... a recovering Schwarzbeinian.

Good luck to all... and remember, use your intiuition
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Old Sat, May-25-02, 01:19
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Interesting...

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Good luck to all... and remember, use your intiuition


I'm wondering in what direction your intuition is taking you to now?

Karen
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Old Sat, May-25-02, 07:41
rosarugosa rosarugosa is offline
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Plan: TSP
Stats: 147/147/135 Female 5'2"
BF:?/?/?
Progress: 54%
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
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30 lbsmore, my question is similar to Karen's, you say that you are back to "sensible eating" what are you doing differently from sp that you consider such a contrast?

Personally I have not seen a more sensible, balanced program than sp. It can certainly be customized. I know to lose I have to follow the lowest carb suggestion in her chart and consistent exercise is a must for me.

I have read somewhere that b vitamins can be overdone easily and it seems as though I have read where they can cause weight gain in some people. Did you question her or her staff about that. What was their reaction to your dilemma? Did they test for thyroid & hormonal imbalances?

Bluesky, welcome. You might find the link I put in a post 'Dr.Sp Interveiw' helpful. It is an hour long interview with Dr. S.
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Old Sat, May-25-02, 08:24
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Plan: Anti Schwarzbein
Stats: 180/200/140
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Dr. Schwarzbein was my endocrinologist. We worked closely together and with her staff. They kept saying that the weight loss would come, just wait. Like I said, I did it for a year and 2 months... believing that it would work. I wanted to so bad. I felt that 200 lbs was not a success for me.

I had every test in the book... at least once a month, with a consultation every two weeks. Believe me, I gave the program a fighting chance. I have the medical bills to prove it!

I do have other medical concerns, but this should have worked! Ovarian Cancer puts a person into surgical menopause and that is what Dr. S does... balance hormones.

What I am doing now is trying to recover. I'm confused and I am real disappointed in a doctor that I put my trust in. And I'm not just talking about a book.. I saw the real McCoy! Frankly, I think she was happy with my decision to stop seeing her..

I eat almost no dairy, go to the gym twice a day... keep the carbs low.. but not out altogether... and I keep the fat intake low. I supplement with CLA and some of the vitamins that Dr. S. gave me... Salmon oil, etc.

I don't want to be a "basher" of Dr. S. I like her! I live in the same town as her and see her occasionally. It didn't work for me. I'm 30lbs heavier... and they watched me get that way....
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Old Sat, May-25-02, 08:52
rosarugosa rosarugosa is offline
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Plan: TSP
Stats: 147/147/135 Female 5'2"
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Progress: 54%
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I am curious, did you confront the Dr. with why it was not working for you. If so did she have any answers as to why you did not get your money worth?
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Old Sat, May-25-02, 12:08
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Plan: Anti Schwarzbein
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Yes I did. I talked with her many times about why I was gaining weight instead of losing weight. I got the same answer from her and all of her staff.... "weight loss is just around the corner, your body is healing"... but after a year I felt like a fool for believing her. My internist that also went to Dr. S. said that she was glad to get me out of the clutches of Diana Schwarzbein.

I think it works for a lot of people. I'm happy for them... but not everyone is wired the same... I must be the minority. I am very uncomfortable as a result of it.. and I am mad that I have to find ways to lose the 30lbs in addition to the 30 that I originally went to see Diana Schwarzbein for....

Enough said... sorry to rain on everyones parade... it just didn't work for me.
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Old Sat, May-25-02, 14:38
mmoranmic mmoranmic is offline
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Plan: Schwarzbein Principle
Stats: 168/168/155 Female 68"
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Location: California
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Welcome BlueSky!
I too switched from Atkins to Schwarzbein as I believe her program offers the most balance and, as you said, the most wholesome food choices. I beat up my body for many years with sugar in one form or another and I expect that it will take time and effort to heal. The good news is that I feel so good right now!
I don't have the highs and lows from sugar (corn in any form was my carb of choice!), my complexion has cleared up, my stomach doesn't bother me and I've lost weight.
I do need the support of this group as I've been sneaking in a few non-SP items back into my daily fare and I'm getting back on track so I thank you for joining our group. Good luck to you!
Maureen
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Old Sun, May-26-02, 21:03
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Plan: TSP/PPLP/low-cal/My own
Stats: 250/209/150 Female 63.5 inches
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Progress: 41%
Location: Sacramento, CA
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I hope I'm not beating a dead horse, but 30lbsmore, you say, "keep the carbs low.. but not out altogether." Were you eating carbs when you were following Dr. Schwarbein's instructions?

The reaon I ask is the her program seems to allow the highest intake of carbs of the truly low-carb plans. Just curious since her new book hasn't come out and I'm really curious to know if her direction has changed at all.

Good luck with your endeavours to achieve a cure and weight loss.

And welcome! bluesky!

;-Deb
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Old Sun, May-26-02, 21:34
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Plan: Anti Schwarzbein
Stats: 180/200/140
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Progress: -50%
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I followed Dr. Schwarzbein's plan to the letter. Remember, I saw her in person... really, I don't think that every plan is for every person. This plan did not work for me... I worked very closely with Dr. S herself and her staff... I know it's hard for some of you to believe my experience.. but it's true...
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Old Sun, May-26-02, 22:18
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Plan: TSP/PPLP/low-cal/My own
Stats: 250/209/150 Female 63.5 inches
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Location: Sacramento, CA
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So are you eating more carbs or fewer now?

And I agree with you. There is no one-size-fits-all plan. I have never been healthier since I started TSP. I even went on a 9.3-mile hike today. It wiped me out, but I could never even have attempted it before I started TSP.

Obviously, in your case, it's not working for you. I'm just curious to know what is working.

Thanks,
;-Deb
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Old Sun, May-26-02, 22:23
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Plan: Anti Schwarzbein
Stats: 180/200/140
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Progress: -50%
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I did have more energy and slept better with TSP.. but the lbs just piled on.

Now I am working out at the gym twice a day and counting calories. I keep the carbs low.. and I don't eat all the fat that Dr. S's plan has. I eat small meals, low fat, no dairy... little animal fat, but lots of fresh food. about 300 cals each... 5 times a day. I haven't found the right thing for me yet. Still at 200lbs when I should be at 130-140... I think that's why I'm so discouraged.. I was 180 when I first saw her... so I'm 3 steps behind.

Good luck to you.. whatever works for you is the way to go! Exercise is so important. Your hike sounds like a wonderful bonus to the plan.
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Old Mon, May-27-02, 03:49
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Plan: Scharzbein principle
Stats: 187/187/147 Female 166cm
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Location: Tipperary, Ireland
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Hi all

very interesting discussion.

From what I can understand,those of us for whom LOw carbing works, are all suffering from insulin resistance?

I had been going to weight watchers for many years and watching women around me lose weight on weekly basis while I sat there depressed only losing an odd lb every now and then. I know the leader wondered if I really did follow the programme...when in actualy fact I did, but it just didn't work for me.

So there must be people out there who are not insulin resistant..right?

So maybe these means that those people won't succeed on a low carb diet?

I was at a lecture by a doctor on Saturday, who's an expert on Polycystic Ovary Syndrome. most/many women with this condition suffer from insulin resistance which is the core reason for the development of their other symptoms.

He explained it from an evolutionary point of view in that insulin resistant women often develop PCOS which often causes them to lose their fertility. However in the past, when a famine occured, it was the PCOS women who regained their fertility and kept the human race going while the non-pcos women lost ther fertility as they starved.
This is an evolutionary thing to keep the human race going.

Obviously most of us will never experience a famine and the westernised diet we now eat is identifying the insulin resistant from the non-insulin resistant?

Anyway, my point is we are not all the same so there may well be a big group of the population who don't find the Low carb diet the best for them.

that's my tuppence worth anyway.....
Clo
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