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Old Mon, Dec-29-03, 08:17
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I have had frequent bladder infections with very hard to diagnose symptoms. One of them ended me up in the hospital a year ago. Anyway I have one again and am so frustrated. Any ideas? The culture always shows E Coli. Also, (I know this is disgusting...sorry) I have had green bowel movements for over 1 week. Loose stool. Any ideas on what this could be? I have not had an abundance of green anything so that is not it.

I kept hesitating writing this because it is so yucky but I am at a loss for why this keeps happening. Any help will be appreicated!
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Old Mon, Dec-29-03, 10:05
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Try garlic pills and cotton underwear. You could also take a teaspon of apple cider vinegar in 8 oz. water. Drink plenty of water. Your body is trying to get rid of the infection.
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Old Tue, Dec-30-03, 02:46
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Zuleika...

I suffered with Bladder infections for many, many years, and in the end I was diagnosed as having Interstitual Cystisis which destroyed my bladder, so it had to be removed; I am ostomate now!!

But I was told to take Cranberry tablets or drink Cranberry juice!! It works, but be careful taking Garlic tablets, coz I was taking them every day (Kyolic Aged Garlic Tablets) to prevent kindney infections, same as you, you know, to keep our water works clean and it was successful for me! But this Professor of Medicine whom I'm under said it's not good to take too many garlic tablets as it thins your blood down, which isn't a good thing and it concerned him that I had been on them for that long, so he told me to stop taking them and I did. They are good though to take for prevention, I haven't had a urine infection for two years, but as I said, it's not so good for our blood, just thought that might interest you a tad, truthfully, it scared me...

This is a bit personal but it's not meant to offend anyone, this is actual fact!! Women should wipe themselves from front to back, not the other way around. My Specialist told me this a hundred years ago and he said it is the main reason why so many women get infections. I did everything correct but as I said I had a disease which wasn't picked up for 25 years, it was hell, it nearly killed me...

Can't offer any advice as to why your business is green though and it doesn't sound all that pleasant but I would suggest it's something you are eating coz what goes in must come out unless you have a bowel infection, have you told your Doctor??

Anyway thought this might help, and good luck with it all. Buy some Ural sachets and Cranberry Tablets, the large dosage, not the small dosage tablets! In Australia they are a 1000mg I think and you can purchase a smaller dose but it's best to start on the high dose especially in your case, they are available in most health shops???

Bye for now Nancye...
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Old Tue, Dec-30-03, 08:16
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I have told my doctor and she said that sometimes the body acts in myserious ways when things are going on in the body. Go figure! Made me mad. This seems to be getting better though. Maybe it is a detox effect.

What is this bladder disease? I went to a Urologist and he did a bladder scope and he said that everything was fine. I am taking cranberry extract, although I am not real good about taking it regularly. The compounding pharmacist gave me a pill to take for the infection. I think the next time I think I have an infection I am just going to the urologist because or my gyne. I do not think my regular doctor is good at these things. I am thinking that all the GP is good for is colds and flu type stuff. I have been very frustrated with this.

What other symptoms did you have? The hygeine thing is not a problem. Neither is the underware. I have done about everything I know how. I drink a lot of water in the summer (live in AZ), but do have a hard time in the winter. I drink but do not drink enough. Also I do notice that if I have black tea everyday or a lot of it in one day I feel the bladder symptoms come on.

I do not get the same self medication effect from green tea. I do not know what it is. I have cut way back though. If I could kick the black tea I think it would help tremendously. Also, sexual contact seems to have an effect. Not sure why. I really think it has something to do with my hysterectomy about 3 years ago. It has been a lot worse since then. I think he put me back together wrong.

Thanks for the email. Take care.
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Old Tue, Dec-30-03, 08:50
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Hi there...

I had my hysty when I was 26, I am now 53! However it was after my hysty when I noticed things were not quite right in my bladder, twinges at first!! Then my hubby and I went out on a country drive and coming home I asked him to burn it fast!! I needed to go, in the end I started crying the pain was that bad! His reaction was, "it can't be that urgent" Hence, we had to stop along side the road, the pain was incredible, to say the least!! As time went by the pain increased, intercourse, pressure to go and do my business, drinking tea, wine anything that was acidic, it affected my bladder!! Many, many tests i.e. water works, never an infection but my GP always put me on the old favourite, antibiotics! One another occasion, emergency Dr said you need antbiotics, I said "no I'm not taking anymore" He yelled at me and said "I'm the Dr here and I make the decisions and I am telling you that you have a Urine or Cystitis infection!!" I left and rang back for my results, he spoke with me and said "no infection" I laughed and said "I didn't take em!!!" He understood...

The pain is excruciating, I had Dr after Dr look at me, not one new of this disease, it's not naked to the human eye, the bladder needs to have a biopsy taken. I had so many dilations of the bladder, so many operations, nearly 30 to be exact!! No joke this is all true!! As I said I was 26 when I first started with my symptoms by the time I was 46 I was crawling on my hands and knees the pain was so bad. The Specialist (Gynea) kept dilating and dilating until one day I was so sick that when my daughter spoke to me I threw something at her, I couldn't respond normally, I was so ill. My husband carried me to the car, down to the emergency Dr and thank goodness they had a Locum working the nasty one was on holidays. He took one look at me and said I am in my last month of studying to be a Urology Surgeon, you my dear have a disease in your bladder, and he gave me the news that I would lose it.

He wrote to the Gyne Specialist for a biopsy to be performed, but he refused and said there was ntohing wrong with my bladder!!

It was then I rang my original Dr who's surgery was too far away as I moved, the travelling was a pain, when she went through all of her notes, she apologised, she said of the 50 Urine tests, not one had an infection and she said she should have realized then something was seriously wrong. I was 42 then, I fought to keep my bladder until I was 46, but by then it shrunk and could only hold 60 mls, it vertially dried out!!

She rang the Professor of Urology, I was admitted after hundreds of times, I spent so many days in hospital, I was sick, the pain in my bladder was excruiating, hence a biopsy was performed and he came in to tell me that I was to lose my bladder...

I know this is a long story, I'm sorry but your symptoms sound like mine, the only way to diagnose this disease is for a piece of lining to your bladder needs to be tested, do it now, because I went through hell, intravenous drips into my bladder for years, catheters, pethodine by the gallon, nerves cut in my bladder to try and save it, you name it, they did it to me!! So please ask your Urologist if you could have a biopsy performed on your bladder.

The disease is either known as Hannah's Ulcer or Interstitual Cystitis, you stand up and be the boss, make sure they do not do to you as they did to me for many, many, years! It's not worth the pain, thank god for that practising surgeon (Locum), he was my angel...

Please let me know how you got on, and if you receive this note, I am on Yahoo and msn...

Bye Nancye...

PS I hope you can understand this all, a bit long winded but it might help you diagnose a disease if it's there!!!
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Old Tue, Dec-30-03, 09:01
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Sorry to add further!! Too mcuh drinking of water can set this disease off, drink only as the body needs! My bladder used spasm badly, tighten and twist, I could not use soap, scented toilet papers, only warm water to wash myself, if the water was too hot it would set the pain off, even sitting on a hard chair, that was the worst, friends became so aware of my needs it was that bad, believe me!! The chairs had to be even otherwise the sagging would affect me! Crazy but true!! This disease also effects the urethea and it's so sensitive and painful, I could never strain myself, sneeze, cough, run, etc, etc, as it would set the pain off, like you wouldn't believe!!

Some days I couldn't walk to our letter box, or walk outside because no sooner I start to walk, I would have to go to the toilets, I knew where every toilet was in WA... Anyway just remembered that...

Cya...
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Old Tue, Dec-30-03, 19:45
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MSK...

Also to add, a lot of Doctors do not know of this disease which amazed my husband and I. Many times in the middle of the night when I was admitted to hospital the young interns would say "sorry what is it" we would then have to spell it out for them! Another Urologist I was with operated, tightened the bladder etc, etc, five weeks later I was back in hospital, he operated again, but this time he said the urethea was too tight and then put me on antidepressants! Fool of a man, he was a Urologist and even he didn't know about it. So demand a biopsy if you have a remote thought that this is what it is. My case was severe though but as I say it's not naked to the eye. We have three layers to our bladders the exterior, inner, internal lining (the inside of your bladder) this disease attacks the inner layer so that is why this disease is hard to detect.

Many Doctors don't like being told what to do i.e. a biopsy but if you have an inkling about this then do something about it.

Camomile tea is very soothing to the bladder, but try to stay off all acidic drinks, foods etc, not good for it at all. Being on the Atkins diet will be good for you, it should help your symptoms.

I'm sad becuase my GP told me that they are now using Botox and trialing it with diseased bladders and apparently doing fantastic stuff with it, I was eight years to late!!

Sorry I keep remembering things I didn't write about but that should give you a good idea about this disease, but it may not be so don't panic about it, you may have an irritable bladder, it could be something quite simple so go and see your Dr and he will arrange a visit for you, ask for a reputable Urologist too!!

Cya...
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Old Tue, Dec-30-03, 19:58
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MSK...

When you mentioned the intercourse part, that was the worst for me too, within minutes the pain would start. At first it wasn't too bad but by the time I was 46 intercourse was almost non existent in our home, we just couldn't do it because of the consequences!! I was fortunate, I have a beautiful husband who loves me and has been my carer for the past 27 years!! So the sex issue wasn't a big deal to him, my health was his concern!!

But as I said diet, acidic foods i.e. vinegar, wines, beer, fresh lemon juice, ketchup, create a reaction in your bladder, I know it's hard to handle, but try that, I still had my wine but not a lot so I was okay there, we are all different....

Cya Nancye...
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