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Old Thu, Jan-02-20, 03:16
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Yeah, I was told it's bad bacteria and there is no cure once you get it.



In my case, specific antibiotics for the specific bacteria in my mouth did stop the gingivitis. I no longer have gum disease and that was over 10 years ago.
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Old Thu, Jan-02-20, 19:10
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Plan: atkins, carnivore 2023
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In a college microbiology course, pH of the environment was one test toward defining microbes. Low pH kills off some types, and high pH kills off othersn Means changing the pH kills off the bad bugs in the mouth.
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Old Fri, Jan-03-20, 14:03
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Plan: Keto (Atkins Induction)
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Alkaline works for me. I brush with a salt/baking soda tooth powder and use an alkaline mouthwash (Glyco-Thymoline or Alka-Thyme).

Back when Viadent was on the market with blood root it had a high PH.

My dentist recently told me that when I came to see him 40 years ago, he thought I was going to lose my teeth. I've kept my teeth 30 years longer than all the people in my father's family.

Bob
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Old Sat, Jan-04-20, 12:25
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Bob, has you denist noticed a decrease in your gum pockets since you switched your tooth powder?
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Old Sat, Jan-04-20, 13:25
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Most of them yes, some slightly (a mm or 2) and the ones that haven't have been stable for decades. The hygienist is so impressed that she recommends it to others.

Bob
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Old Sat, Jan-04-20, 15:28
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I had/have one pocket. It was surprizingly big, everything filled it; now its just where meat fibers get caught. Has taken over a year to "heal".
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Old Tue, Jan-07-20, 08:41
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Plan: PSMF/IF
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Thanks to Ms Arielle I usually just brush with baking soda, since it's also my favorite facial exfoliant and it's right there. I love it!

Since going low carb my hygienist have exclaimed over my A grades on dental. I added a "floss brush" electric toothbrush from Oral B, and now I don't bother flossing... and got an A+!

Per Dr. Jack Kruse, I avoid fluoride in all its forms.
Due to your post I got one

More expensive then the $5 ARM & HAMMER™ Spinbrush™ that is likely just as good but has a 2X larger brush head.

Also got a couple bottles of dreaming earth botanicals "Love Your Mouth" oil to brush with. It's not as strong as that from OraWellness but half the cost.
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Old Tue, Jan-07-20, 10:40
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Mike, how do u like using that new toothbrush?Debating if its worth the cost compared to a standard soft toothbrush.

Im sure you might need a chance to use it before commenting. lol
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Old Tue, Jan-07-20, 18:53
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Brushing 1-2 times a day with plain baking soda eliminated my gingivitis. A soft brush, not hard. Baking soda is very cheap. Nothing special required.


Hi Ms. A. How do you apply the baking soda? Proportion baking soda and water?
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Old Wed, Jan-08-20, 15:43
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Plan: PSMF/IF
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Mike, how do u like using that new toothbrush?Debating if its worth the cost compared to a standard soft toothbrush.

I'm sure you might need a chance to use it before commenting. lol
I would say it's worth using at least once-a-day. Stiffness is a bit more than the $5 SpinBrush and $50 Sonicare. The vibration and scrubbing action is a bit stronger than both too. It pulses like a toy after 2 min so you know when to stop

Not bad for about $20 compared to a Sonicare, depending on which one you get.

It would be grand if they come out with replacement brush heads of different textures like most toothbrushes. That would be easy, and wouldn't require any change or replacement of the original platforms.

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Old Sat, Jan-11-20, 18:48
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Addendum "floss brush" electric toothbrush from Oral B:

Looking at the head, it has some thin plastic or nylon 'blades' that floss between teeth. That feature, and it's stronger mechanical action, puts it ahead of the pack of oral care brushes IMO. Works well with any or even no dentifrice.
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Old Sat, Jan-11-20, 20:25
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I can see where having changable attachments would be valuable. Having harder brushing action sorta surprized me.....maybe because I use very soft brushes now, and brush gently. The opposite of a lifetime of brushing.
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Old Sat, Jan-11-20, 20:56
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Oral B does have a variety of replacement brush heads that fit one handle (not all fit all handles, so check). I use the round head for sensitive teeth & gums. According to my dentist, the round-headed ones, not the cross-action ones, are best if you have gum recession. Since I did not grow up with electric toothbrushes, I was moving it like a manual toothbrush, but learned that you are NOT supposed to "brush" with an electric toothbrush, just angle it at 45 degrees to the base of the teeth and very slowly move it along the gum line. Actually, the rotation of the head will walk it along the gum line while you guide the handle with a light touch.
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Old Sat, Jan-11-20, 21:20
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That IS intetesting.....and also confusing, as my gum recession became less of a problem with the use of a soft brush used gently and baking soda.

What ever the style of brushing, the common denominator is the brushing paste. Both NOT typical "toothpaste".
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Old Sun, Jan-12-20, 12:20
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Plan: None, limit carbs, Omega6
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Hi Ms. A. How do you apply the baking soda? Proportion baking soda and water?


For want of a better method, I have a pot of bicarb, wet my brush and scoop a bit onto the end.
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