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Old Wed, Jul-18-07, 11:35
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The first time I heard anything about "manifestation" or positive thinking was from the Seth books - when I was about 13. My mother was always into "odd philsophy" type reading, go Mom

Then I found a few more sources, though primarily in the "newage" genre, which were decent.

But then I discovered Ayurveda and Deepak Chopra. I was able to attend courses he taught in Mass. before the big split and he went on his own to make his mark in the world.

He always talked about mind / body connections and the quantum universe, I think I was just too young or preoccupied to really digest it, as it were.

Thankfully now, in my OLD OLD age :grin:, I'm getting it! Sure is nicer this way, hehe.

Like attracts like.. and right now, I'm liking my new smaller bathing suit, woop!
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Old Wed, Jul-18-07, 13:16
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I hear ya.. I remember Seth too.. actually saw him one time many moons ago...

I have followed Ramtha for a good many years with the formulation Consciousness + Energy = Reality

Timothy
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Old Wed, Jul-18-07, 13:44
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Hiya,

I read Seth back in the 80's. Where did you see him Timothy? And what was it like if you don't mind elaborating.

I'm familiar with Abraham, Dyer, Chopra, Shakti, What the Bleep contributors etc., etc. I haven't seen The Secret because I thought it's just a rehash plus I heard the blonde (sorry - don't know her name) kinda ripped off the Abraham folks.

Ten Zen Seconds sounds pretty interesting - I like Maisel.

Catch ya later-
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Old Wed, Jul-18-07, 13:59
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Here is the Ten Zen Seconds website: http://www.tenzenseconds.com/

and, word is, that Eric is planning on doing a Ten Zen weight loss trial


Kathy
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Old Wed, Jul-18-07, 17:33
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Great thread, thanks for bumping it T-Man.

I have been reading a lot of Abraham-Hicks and listen to their archived shows on Hay House Radio.It's made such a difference in some areas of my life. Now I am trying to learn to use it for health and positive body image.It's been sort of one step forward, two back but everyday is an improvement over the one before.
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Old Wed, Jul-18-07, 18:33
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I saw Abraham-Hicks in March in Toronto. It was awesome

Has anyone tried the Holosync meditation program through Centerpointe? I'm getting it for my birthday
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Old Wed, Jul-18-07, 20:56
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I have a program on my pc called Subliminal Power- it has msg. preloaded, or one can load their own.

And glad you "found" this thread T-man *nudge*nudge*
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Old Wed, Jul-18-07, 21:12
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I heard the blonde (sorry - don't know her name) kinda ripped off the Abraham folks.


Just wanted to clarify, Esther Hicks is prominently featured in "The Secret" and has most of the "on air" interview time.

however, The Secret is merely a rehash for those who are familiar with the materials already, nice though

Thanks for the Zen link, haven't seen that one before!

Just out of curiosity, anyone familiar with Lazaris?
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Old Wed, Jul-18-07, 23:35
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Morgan Mac: actually, Esther was taken out of the Secret. The one that is available in stores now does not have her on it, and they changed the 3 steps of the asking and receiving, and also slightly changed the emotional range model. I've seen both versions and I've heard a few different stories as to why Esther backed out of it. Something to do with copyrights and money, I think.
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Old Thu, Jul-19-07, 07:31
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MaireB is right - there are two versions. The NY Times has a pretty in-depth article about the whole thing. They interview both parties.
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Old Thu, Jul-19-07, 07:40
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Morgan Mac: actually, Esther was taken out of the Secret. The one that is available in stores now does not have her on it, and they changed the 3 steps of the asking and receiving, and also slightly changed the emotional range model. I've seen both versions and I've heard a few different stories as to why Esther backed out of it. Something to do with copyrights and money, I think.


No way! That's terrible! Guess I saw the old one where she was very heavily involved.. Blah, why is there drama involved even in a project like that? Ah well, thanks for the info!
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Old Thu, Jul-19-07, 10:49
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I have a program on my pc called Subliminal Power- it has msg. preloaded, or one can load their own.

And glad you "found" this thread T-man *nudge*nudge*


Hehehe glad you sent it to me... I'm curious of this program for your PC.. can you send me the info pls?

T-man
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Old Thu, Jul-19-07, 11:09
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Hehehe glad you sent it to me... I'm curious of this program for your PC.. can you send me the info pls?

T-man

Do a search for subliminal-power, and should get you to their website. It did cost me- I've used it for over 3 yrs. now if memory serves me right. Also a suggestion- to go to somewhere where one can downloads applications to try- and type in either affirmations or subliminal- there are some free ones out there as well.
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Old Thu, Jul-19-07, 12:56
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lizzyLC: I'd love to read the article, do you know if it's online? I'm going to Google it
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Old Thu, Jul-19-07, 13:02
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Okay, I found this article, which was supposedly copied from the website of www.abraham-hicks.com

Copied from the Abraham-Hicks website:

THE SECRET
The Television Movie
From Jerry & Esther



Dear Friends,

Nearly two years ago, while on-board our Mexican Riviera Cruise, Prime Time Productions did an interview with Jerry and me, and with Abraham, in response to an agreement that we had all carefully crafted together for a television show that was to be aired in Australia called "The Secret." We were told that "The Secret" would be based on our work and that they would seek out other teachers who were in alignment with our work. We reviewed, on DVD, two other projects that had been created by this production company and found them to be beautifully done, and good-feeling pieces.

Since Jerry and I had never before stepped into the public forum in that way with our Abraham work, we followed the advice of our publisher, who introduced us to an intellectual property rights attorney who assisted us in drafting the agreement which would guide our involvement with this project. He explained to us that although he had included in the intellectual property rights license agreement that we were to receive a small percentage of the net profit from this project, and 10% of direct video sales, that it was very unlikely that (from his experience) we would receive any substantial compensation from our participation, and we were not unhappy with that arrangement. Our decision to do it was not motivated from the idea of making money from it, (unless there was profit to share) but because we were stimulated by the excitement of this beautiful producer, and when we met her and her beautiful crew, we easily loved them all.

As time went by, it became apparent that the television network that we had been told would air "The Secret" was not going to do it, at least not right now, and so the production company began seeking other ways of marketing their beautiful project to recoup their very large investment. While Jerry and I were uncomfortable with what felt to us like a rather aggressive marketing campaign (just not our style, nothing wrong with it) we stayed focused on our busy schedule and really had very little to do with what was happening with "The Secret."

Eventually we received an email from the producer of "The Secret" lovingly explaining (we never have received correspondence from her that was anything other than extremely loving) that the contract that we had all agreed upon and signed was no longer sufficient for their further distribution of the project in the areas they were now seeking to distribute the project, and that it would be necessary for us (Jerry and Esther) to relinquish our intellectual property rights in these areas forever and redo our contract or they would have to reluctantly edit us out. It was clear, from the lovingly written email that they did not want to edit us out, but after conferring with our publisher, and then our intellectual property rights attorney, and finally with Abraham, allowing them to edit us out was the path of least resistance. Abraham's words were very clear and easy to understand: "Whenever you are given an ultimatum that says, 'if you don't do this, then we will have to do such and such,' it is best that you just let it go and move on. Otherwise there is always another, and this, and this, and this?"

Now, it seems there is quite a firestorm surrounding our dis-involvment with "The Secret". We are receiving so many emails and letters and face-to-face questions from disappointed people regarding this, so we want you to understand how we feel about it.

We think that "The Secret" clearly and beautifully presents Abraham's Law of Attraction in a way that is easy to understand. It is filled with stunning beauty and beautiful people, many of whom are our personal friends. We love the way "The Secret" moves us, and we feel joy rise within our hearts every time we watch it. We feel the power of it, and the clarity of it, and we love "The Secret".

It is our desire that, rather than being upset that our part of "The Secret" will be omitted in future offerings of it, that instead you enjoy the original Abraham version, as it is, at this time, and that you look forward to what other incredible things these talented people may bring to you. These are people who clearly care about the planet, who want to be of value, and who, in our opinion, are of tremendous value.

Financially speaking, we have been very well paid for our participation with this project? which has amounted to a staggering amount of money. And if money were the most important factor, we assure you, we would have found some way of staying involved.

So, we're out here doing our thing, enjoying the incredible expansion of the message of Abraham, and are so looking forward to the wonderful things that are in our future. Abraham says to us and to you:

It is our desire that you be easy about all of this. There is nothing that has gone wrong here. Everything is in alignment. The Universe will offer a steady stream of uplifting avenues to all of you.

There is great love here for you, Abraham.



Our love,
Jerry & Esther
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