Mainstream Medicine Doesn’t Want To Acknowledge Low-Carb Diet As A Healthy Practice

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Being one of these so-called "obesity experts" at this conference, advocating for the low fat multiple meals per day diet, is akin to being a member of the flat earth society. I am glad that there are doctors such as Dr Kalayjian speaking truth to power.

Unfortunately, the message of all those obesity doctors is not dissimilar to being a member of the flat earth society in the 1400's, insisting that Columbus was on a fool's mission, and going to sail right off the edge of the earth. They're convinced they're right, because the currently prevailing knowledge is that they're right. Sure, there's some new evidence being provided that LC/keto makes a huge difference, but no long term studies showing that it's possible to stick to it, or that it isn't even more dangerous than out of control obesity and diabetes in the long term.

In other words, it's the equivalent of someone in the 1400's saying just because some have been able to sail a certain distance to the west and not drop off the edge of the earth doesn't mean you can continue to sail to the west long enough to reach land, In the current climate of obesity and diabetes, the same as saying there's no proof that you can even stick to LC indefinitely, much less do LC indefinitely without it killing you.

At least that's what the vast majority of obesity doctors have had firmly drummed into their heads, especially when all the nutrition and diet authorities and "experts" are telling them repeatedly that all that protein and fat, with so few carbs and so little fiber are a recipe for an early death, and that there are no long term studies proving otherwise.

The long held belief that it's only a matter of calories in/calories out comes not only from doctors and nutritionists who are considered to be experts in obesity and diabetes, but additional resistance to the efficacy of LC/Keto also comes from PETA, climate change experts who blame so many current problems on "cow farts", gov't agencies pushing more grains, and fruit for everyone, and of course the manufacturers and grocery industry falling right in line with those recommendations.


It's a sad situation, and with how much resistance there still is to LC, not likely to change for the better without a long, protracted, uphill battle, waged by one individual at a time, each one of them so sick and tired of being sick and tired that they're willing to try something radically different, instead of yet another version of the same old unsatisfying, unsustainable low cal diet that didn't work the last dozen times they tried it.

Another example of "The Emperor's New Clothes." Yes, a diet of several meals and multiple snacks per day really works, you just can't see it happening. Trust us, we're experts!

Yeah... and unfortunately, the truth of the matter is that, if I stick with a LowCarb/Ketogenic diet INDEFINITELY, I WILL die. No doubt about it. I can't argue with that conclusion. Of course, the same thing is true if someone sticks with a Low-Fat Mediterranean diet, or a Whole-Food Vegan diet, or any other diet INDEFINITELY. Eventually everybody dies!

What we need is some kind of consensus on what it means to stick with a particular dietary plan "long-term." I.e., how long should participants have been living on a particular dietary plan without any negative repercussions showing up for nutritionists to be willing to say that the plan appears to be safe? 6 weeks? 6 months? One year? Five years? Twenty years?

Just frickin PICK a time point and then apply the same time-point standard to every kind dietary plan!

If you want to say that Keto diets are "not proven" to be safe until massive numbers of people have stuck with the diet for more than ten years without any ill effects, then apply the exact same standard to EVERY OTHER DIETARY pattern!

And, if you want to say that a particular dietary plan is ONLY healthy if it provides every single known nutrient in sufficient quantities without any supplementation what-so-ever, then apply that same standard to EVERY dietary plan.

In other words, if the reasons for declaring that a ketogenic diet is not safe for the "long term" is that most (or even a large percentage) of people who go on a ketogenic diet need to supplement with additional magnesium; then it seems only fair to also declare that a Vegan diet is not safe for the "long term" because most (or at least a large percentage) of people who go on a strict vegan diet wind up needing to supplement with additional B12, calcium, iron and zinc!

At the very least, in evaluating diets for safety, efficacy, and adherence-ability, nutritionists ought to hold all the diets to the SAME standards. I'm just so tired of low-carb/ketogenic diets being held to a higher standards than all other diets and then being pooh-poohed because they don't meet that higher standard. And even worse, when they DO manage to meet those higher standards, nutritionists and main-stream medicine then moves the goalposts! "Yeah, you've been eating LC for five years now and you're still healthy... but give it another few years and your health is gonna suffer!"

This!!!! It drives me crazy! Very few people stick to the low fat diet or any other diet. this is not a low carb/keto specific phenomenon.

What is going to kill me sooner, a low fat diet I can't stick to resulting in a 12.0 A1c as a result, or a low carb/keto diet which I actually can stick to resulting in an average 5.6 A1c over 4 years? I know which one I'm happy to be gambling my life on!

But no matter how many people see or hear of my success or the success of a myriad of others, it is so hard to convince others they can do it too, especially when their health professionals are un-supportive.

[QUOTE=Mycie14]This!!!! It drives me crazy! Very few people stick to the low fat diet or any other diet. this is not a low carb/keto specific phenomenon.

What is going to kill me sooner, a low fat diet I can't stick to resulting in a 12.0 A1c as a result, or a low carb/keto diet which I actually can stick to resulting in an average 5.6 A1c over 4 years? I know which one I'm happy to be gambling my life on!

But no matter how many people see or hear of my success or the success of a myriad of others, it is so hard to convince others they can do it too,

especially when their health professionals are un-supportive.[/QUOTE]

this is my point exactly. we MUST target the doctors with info from other doc , especially the teaching doctors like Dr Westmann.

Dr Jason Fung and Dr Noakes had to teach themselves the real truth about high carb diets, find a new method to treat diseases. In Dr Fungs case kidney disease.

Whereas, Dr Westmann was foreward thinking and spent ample time with Dr Atkins, and develped the obesity program at DUKE U.


We know there is a griwing faction of doctors supporting LC. HOW they can help change the establishment is foggy.

From my personal experience older doctors teach younger doctors, not the other way around. By far, ego is the elephant in the room. Ive met a few rare doctor that is without a HUGE ego.....so rare it is shocking.

So imho, we need established doctors to speak out and we also need to push for change.

If we dont, it will never happen. Slow is better than no change.

Because so many people grow up in a culture where they are:

• told what to do at all times
• expected to conform, constantly and without argument
• poverty culture which relies on cheap carbs
• vulnerable to constant messaging they do not even think about: "these are my thoughts"
• live in a culture where no one cooks
• have no clue about nutrient/price ratios

Do not discount the impact of "sticker shock." I can get two takeout meals OR I can buy a big brisket which covers 3-4 meals. But people look at a hunk of meat, cry "That's so expensive" and buy "cheaper" junk food; which they eat so much of it winds up more expensive.

And we haven't even gotten into nutrients. It's actually cheaper to eat nothing but meat, if you are me. Easier, too.

Well, I have been Ketoish for over 17 years and all the side effects have been healthy improvements.

Hmm, Low carb / keto was the diet of the northern Inuits which no longer exist because the long term effects killed them off. lol

The ignorance of these medical doctors is truly appallin g.

And there wasn't any of this longterm evidence they demand in the whole "fat will kill you" mindset. Especially since it was supposed to only be "saturated fat will kill you" which then morphed into fat itself being deadly.

I've had people ask me "Aren't you worried about eating all that fat?" I explain that the whole Fat Scare (that's what I call it) was based on a study with 22 countries but the "scientist" only picked the seven that supported his thesis.

Then I stand by to catch their jaw as it drops open.

If they looked, they would find I'm completely right, but they don't. People want the results without changing their lives.

Good luck with that one.

Exactly! Our habitual patterns of behavior are so strong and it feels as if they are impossible to change, but that is not true. We can change how we behave. We just have to want the long term results of these changes more than we want the temporary pleasures of our habits. Of course that means we have to do the research, question our assumptions and stop giving ourselves excuses when we don't like what we discover to be true.

I have two friends. One shaped like a bowling ball and her husband a 400 pound pear, and two twenty-somethings that keep packing on the pounds.....I gave up talking low carb, they are not diabetic so they dont need to give up the junk food.

I’ve got a couple of those bowling balls in my life, too. They don’t even try anymore. They’d rather sit around eating Little Debbie and playing Candy Crush. And accept the fact that getting old sucks.

We really need our country to step up. All starts at the government level. USDA, CDC, and change what medical doctors are learning and doing.Maybe we need to create a campaign to inform our congress. Each and every one of them.