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Old Mon, Aug-12-19, 11:54
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Plan: mostly milkfat
Stats: 190/152.4/154 Male 67inches
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I have seen intermittent fasting speed healing in a couple of studies. One involved heart surgery in rats, the rats fasting every other day healed faster. Maybe something to do with growth hormone, but the repeating theme where stem cells, sattelite cells, immune cells, basically not yet fully differentiated cells involved in regeneration are strengthened seems obviously relevant here. All very important to healing.
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Old Mon, Aug-12-19, 12:27
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Plan: atkins
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Thanks T.....more to chew on.
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Old Mon, Aug-12-19, 18:08
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Plan: Ketogenic (LCHFKD)
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Lots to learn with the hopes for the funding for unbiased studies to better understand how the metabolism is impacted positively and negatively from fasting and fast mimicking. Learning more about how to achieve positive health results from autophagy and when and under what conditions it becomes optimal is really the next set of information I'd like to have confirmed. IF is easy for me to adhere to, LC is easy for me to adhere to, fast-mimicking? It may be similar, but I would like to see the differences between a control group, a pure calorie restricted group, a fasting group, and a fat mimicking group for the basis of comparison. Tough to get these studies funded, as I don't believe Coca Cola, ADM, or General Foods are interested in supporting this type of research.
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Old Mon, Aug-12-19, 18:52
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Plan: Keto+IF
Stats: 170/140/140 Female 62 inches
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The lack of controlled human testing is why I believe sharing our personal n=1 experiences are so important. The way any and all you mentioned (GRB5111) react inside my 74+ female body is probably totally different from the way a young male body will react to exactly the same protocols. My data may be useful to women in my age group. Maybe not, since one size doesn't fit all. Too many variables.
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Old Mon, Aug-12-19, 19:55
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Even when the studies get done, it will be years maybe decades before info reaches the medical doctors; I depend on the n=1 to hear new ideas, repeat ideas and the professionals like dr fung that put info out on the internet for all. Like all of us, my info comes from online, not my doctor.
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Old Mon, Aug-12-19, 23:40
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The lack of controlled human testing is why I believe sharing our personal n=1 experiences are so important. The way any and all you mentioned (GRB5111) react inside my 74+ female body is probably totally different from the way a young male body will react to exactly the same protocols. My data may be useful to women in my age group. Maybe not, since one size doesn't fit all. Too many variables.

Agree that for many us, nothing can replace what we learn through our n=1 experiences. My n=1 experiences are also inspired by research supporting certain approaches. That's how I learned the method to achieve ketosis. Based on my n=1, being in ketosis or burning fat as primary fuel is very good for me. From past experiences of IFs lasting for 4 days, I felt great, energetic, clear-headed. There's no doubt that I reaped the benefits of autophagy, and likely had higher levels of HGH, and BDNF. I'm trying to learn more, and one of the things I'd like to learn is how long does my IF have to be to get benefits from autophagy. Just something else to help with my n=1s. Yes, if I had done this stuff at age 21, I probably would have had a different experience.
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