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Old Tue, Jun-24-08, 18:08
Cajunboy47 Cajunboy47 is offline
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According to this website, a potato can reduce the risk of diabetes:

http://healthycooking.suite101.com/...e_diabetes_risk

According to this website, you can lick diabetes by eating ice cream and chocolate:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/ar...m_and_dark.html

According to this website, we can be misinformed by the use of the glycemic index and it compares the GI of a carrot to a snickers bar. A Snickers Bar is actually lower on the glycemic index than a carrot.

http://www.fitwoman.com/fitbriefing...ight-loss.shtml
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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 07:04
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I think people who write these kind of articles have no clue on nutrition.
I actually went to this old friends house who is a nutritionist and I told her how I have eleminated carbs as much as possible and she offers me mango milk shake saying it is perfectly in the diet. I saw 40g of carbs in that one glass.
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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 09:35
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Idiotic information, as well as information coming from people who have a monetary interest in a product, is rampant on the internet. However, a serving of carrots and a snickers bar would have about the same effect on my BG levels. Carrots are not low carb and for that I reason I would avoid them.

The article about potatoes points to a study about caloric restriction in reducing type 2 diabetes. You have to read past the fluff of journalism. If one was able to maintain a healthy weight with caloric restriction, the odds are they would not develop type 2 diabetes, no matter what they ate.

Dark chocolate does increase insulin sensitivity in some people and is very low carb and low in calories. It is a natural food and I see no reason not to use it. I use it all the time in high protein shakes. I wouldn't eat ice cream because of the sugar and carbs, but Greek yogurt does wonderful things for my BG levels.

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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 11:08
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Similar thing:
I had an email battle with an author named Roger Mason
who claimed you can cure diabetes with lowfat/high grain
diet.Quote from Roger:"Grains are the staff of life."
Eddie
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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 11:20
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The titles of these articles are very misleading. It's obvious they need to hire Nancy LC.....

Bust Blood Sugar Blues by Brining your Bird!
Beat the Bloat by Soaking your Nuts!

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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 14:53
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LOL!

And doing forget:

Doing it with goose fat!
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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 14:57
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Thanks for the chuckle, Ron.
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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 16:04
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Ice cream, Snickers, and French Fries... I am so happy to hear I can eat those now... Do you think it is okay to eat them together?

/smile
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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 16:09
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Originally Posted by Korban
Ice cream, Snickers, and French Fries... I am so happy to hear I can eat those now... Do you think it is okay to eat them together?

/smile


According to the article on calorie restriction, you can't eat French fries, just a plain potato with no fat. Please feel free to substitute carrots......
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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 16:11
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Originally Posted by lowcarbUgh
According to the article on calorie restriction, you can't eat French fries, just a plain potato with no fat. Please feel free to substitute carrots......
Oh, crap...
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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 16:15
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You mean; NOT one of you guys believe this stuff?

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My fiancee and I have redefined the term "food portion" and that has helped me cut through all the BS of misleading information about foods....

We now describe "food portion" like this:

A spoonful or

A chopsticks worth or

A bite
.................................................................

A portion of any food is acceptable, such a portion of carrots, or a portion of snickers.

Now, if I eat a portion of carrots, I don't have a problem, but with a portion of a snickers bar, I'll be wanting to have another and another. There is an example in the Bible that helps with this decision about what foods to eat and not to eat. Actually, the Bible reference's example, doesn't actually refer to food, but the principle of the example can and should be applied to food...

I don't do Bible quotes, but the meaning is this: If something gives you trouble, stay away from it.

So, if for me, I can't eat one portion of a snickers bar without wanting more, then I need to stay away from it altogether. The same could or should apply to anyone for whatever gives them trouble.....

Temptation to do otherwise has been around since that dang woman gave that man an apple. Once mankind realized that resisting temptation was difficult, it opened the door for the creation of "the drug industry", "the health food industry", etc... and that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.....
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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 16:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajunboy47
...Temptation to do otherwise has been around since that dang woman gave that man an apple...
Actually, it doesn't say apple in Genesis, rather the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The point is the same IMHO - fruit is not what it is cracked up to be... another Biblical "truth" - Cain presented God with the fruits of his labor as a sacrifice... literally, grains and fruit... Able, presented a lamb... God wasn't impressed with the fruit and grain... boy, did Cain get pissed at Able...

/smile

P.S. probably Able is spelled Abel, I can't remember... but I hope you get the point...

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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 16:49
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You also forgot to mention FAT was part of his offering too.
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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 17:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wifezilla
You also forgot to mention FAT was part of his offering too.
Barry Groves makes a big point in his book of the perceived value of fat from sheep (from Biblical days) as being at the top of the desired to eat list. He also mentioned that "the fat of the land" is derivative of fat from sheep. Strange how, from childhood on, we are taught to believe that an apple a day, etc... It is a tough concept for many people that I have spoken with to throw aside. It has been so deeply ingrained in us and not something I am willing or able to argue with others about. It seems pretty clear though for the diabetic...

/smile
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Old Wed, Jun-25-08, 17:32
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Yeah, I have been pondering this concept of "daily bread" and grain as the "staff of life," and wondering how that came into our culture.

The early part of Old Testament seems to be all about a meat-eating, herding culture, but by the New Testament, clearly grain has become essential. Abel's favored offering is meat (and fat!) but it is bread that symbolizes the body of Christ.
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