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Old Tue, Mar-07-06, 03:31
Yakumo Yakumo is offline
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I don't trust doctors because I've met so many who were either unhelpful, misleading, or even good natured and tried to help me but had no clue. I have seen a LOT of doctors including some well reknown specialists. They all tend to peghole problems according to their training (an endocrinologist thinks it's hormonal, etc.) and they don't take a holistic view by and large. That said, u must consult doctors, it's stupid to try do this alone. But just take everything they say with a pinch of salt IMHO. Verify things for yourself. Ask to see the blood tests. Ask questions.

Yeah, I'm with Galilew. It's usually a terribly complex problem with a complex solution and an indeterminate cause. Seldom as simple as "you ate too much sugar". Not always though. I know people who have recovered from Candida and fatigue without a big effort. Also, never underestimate the mental component in all this. Your head plays a big role and both affects and is affected by your health.

Indeed, Candida dieting does help a great deal, even if the problem is bacterial. Cutting out carbs really improves my energy and I don't feel sleepy and cloudy in my thinking all the time. However, I would caution strongly against tending towards a diet that cuts out carbs completely, as I did. Causes more problems in the end than it solves and is very difficult to break out of. Veggies are your friend! Especially cultured veggies... However, I think that the Candida diet can bring about remission, but not a cure. I may be wrong though. I think you need to really have nice, clean, well populated bowels and a strongly functioning liver before any of these problems go away, and simply eating meat and avoiding sugar isn't going to get you those.

Again, following my rule of don't trust anyone, please take whatever I say with a grain (or a whole handful) of salt. I am quite jaded after searching for answers and spending all my money for over a year now while getting more and more sick all the time. Don't stop exercising! Don't stop eating! Don't stop trying, and good luck...
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Old Tue, Mar-07-06, 05:16
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Sorry if above seems like ranting! I should add that I don't believe mold (e.g. in cheese or whatever) is necessarily a problem. Makes some people have flare ups, some not. I can tolerate cheese fine, and I can't tolerate many things... Then again, it's questionable as to what extent Candida is causing my sypmtoms and to what extent the parasites

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Old Tue, Mar-07-06, 09:27
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Now that I am paying attention to how my digestion works... I really notice when I've had something that disagrees with me. My stomach balloons out hugely and I gain a couple of pounds. I had nuts 2 days in a row, and too many of them, and now I'm all bloated up.
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Old Tue, Mar-07-06, 10:24
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Its pretty amazing the things you can recognize when you are really paying attention! My sister was amazed that I could tell when I bloat. And its a great way to tell if you can't have anything. I'm testing out strawberries today.
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Old Tue, Mar-07-06, 10:49
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Another real good way to recognise a problem food, for me anyway, is to take my pulse.
For an example: Two weeks ago I ate something with the ingredient listed 'natural flavoring' I took my pulse several times during the evening after eating it. It stayed up in the mid 80's. It must have contained gluten. I had trouble the week following that. The other symptoms started showing up the next day.
If I ever eat out at a restaurant or someone's house and I wonder about something eaten, I take my pulse to see what to expect.
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Old Tue, Mar-07-06, 11:04
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Interesting Gail! There was a conversation on the glutenfree forum about people who sweat and get a racing pulse when they've been glutened.

I think my chief symptoms are: Fatigue, brain fog, light diarrhea. The fatigue hits almost immediately.

On the Braintalk forum there's a lot of interest in tracking gluten symptoms to specific genes. For instance, the 0501 gene seems to involve neurological symptoms.
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Old Tue, Mar-07-06, 11:50
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Ok, if I am correct, my body has a very slow reaction to nuts. Maybe I can get away with nuts one day a week, but not 3 days in a row! Here's what happened:

Saturday: Had pancakes with almond meal and eggs. Was ok all day. Good energy, flat stomach.

Sunday: Had pancakes with almond meal and eggs. Had raw almonds in the afternoon. Starting to notice problems. Stomach swelling in evening.

Monday: No almonds. Stomach is hugely poofed. Had a kind of BM that suggests things are irritated within. Gained 2 pounds without changing diet, eating less in fact.

Tuesday: No almonds. More like diarrhea today, more fatigue today.

It is definitely a delayed reaction!

It is funny. Before I used to blame all my intestinal issues on Almonds, although I couldn't always quite make that distinction. Then I learned gluten was the problem. Now I'm finding out almonds really were a problem too!
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Old Tue, Mar-07-06, 14:13
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Some people who attended Dr. Fine's conference (enterolab.com) about food intolerances took notes and posted them here: http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums...splay.php?f=141
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Old Wed, Mar-08-06, 03:27
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Yeah, I have a similar "threshold" sort of thing. I can get away with a food that disagrees with me if I have only a little. Kefir is a good example of this, and nuts.
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Old Fri, Mar-10-06, 07:47
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*Moan*

Dear lord did i eat something bad last night. could have been sugar alcohols, I treated myself to some sugar free ice cream with sugar free chocolate sauce. the ice cream was sweetened with splenda, but im sure the chocolate sauce was sugar alcohols. talk about BAD GI issues. But it sure did taste delicious.

or could have been that i had fries. they could have bee fried in the same oil as mozzerella sticks or chicken fingers.

all i know is:

*MOAN*

feeling better today and going to eat totally whole foods and drink tons o water. im leaving for my honeymoon tomorrow! wish me luck on eating properly while on a cruise to the bahamas!
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Old Fri, Mar-10-06, 07:55
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If you let them know on day one you have a gluten intolerance, trust me, you will be taken care of on the boat. They cook your meals separately. They will even pamper you a little (more) so you don't feel deprived. Congrats, and have a great time!
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Old Fri, Mar-10-06, 15:12
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Wow... this is good stuff right here! http://www.findarticles.com/p/artic...251/ai_n6112657

I just got back from my rhuematologist and he is putting me on sulfasalazine. He believes that AS and celiac are related and that my arthritis is probably due to "leaky gut syndrome". I was so excited he even mentioned that! It is SO not accepted by most doctors.

I have high hopes that this will help many of my issues.

Holy cow! Reading further:

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Klebsiella in the bowel uses resistant starch processed to oligosaccharides by friendly bacteria as a major source of nutrition. So a low starch diet should decrease its numbers. Ebringer recommends that patients with AS should avoid bread, pasta, cereals of all sorts, rice, potatoes and sugary foods. They can eat unrestricted amounts of vegetables (excluding starchy root vegetables such as potatoes and yams), fruit, eggs, cheese, fish and meat. (28) Legumes such as soy beans and uncooked bananas contain a significant proportion of indigestible starch which may act as a food source for Klebsiella. They should also be avoided.


This was what I was indulging in my low carb cooking. I bought resistant starch and was eating it!

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Old Wed, Mar-22-06, 08:47
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I'm feeling a bit mopey today.

My cruise was fantastic! I have to admit that I did poorly with my eating, but thankfully I did not get sick, no pains, D or C. I actually felt healthy and good!

I came back and started eating properly right away. Don't lecture me on how I can't eat poorly and expect to heal, I know that. The issue I'm having is still with how TIRED I am. Its a LOT LOT LOT better than it was before I was doing things right (ie before i got rid of gluten and started fighting candida), but I am always just SO tired. My eyes are dry all the time and I could fall asleep at a moments notice! I get home from work and all I feel I have energy to do is lay in front of the couch. I was also this tired on the cruise as well, just was able to nap a lot more. I know healing takes time, and vitamin deficiencies take time to fix themselves, but I'm mopey right now that I'm very tired. I'm making the effort to go to the gym at least and walk for exercise, but I wish I felt more awake. I'm a chemistry grad student and sometimes I think I won't be able to get the PhD because I just physically cant do as much work as I feel im required to do. it just generally sucks.

That's the end of that. Just wanted to vent a bit. Thanks for listening.
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Old Wed, Mar-22-06, 09:13
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That's one of my main symptoms of food intolerance, the fatigue. I bet it'll go away soon now that you're being good with the diet again.

Oh yes, grats on the cruise! Next time, you might want to arrange for your dietary needs ahead of time. I understand they do a fantastic job catering to people with allergies.

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Old Wed, Mar-22-06, 10:35
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I'm feeling a bit mopey today.

My cruise was fantastic! I have to admit that I did poorly with my eating, but thankfully I did not get sick, no pains, D or C. I actually felt healthy and good!

I came back and started eating properly right away. Don't lecture me on how I can't eat poorly and expect to heal, I know that. The issue I'm having is still with how TIRED I am. Its a LOT LOT LOT better than it was before I was doing things right (ie before i got rid of gluten and started fighting candida), but I am always just SO tired. My eyes are dry all the time and I could fall asleep at a moments notice! I get home from work and all I feel I have energy to do is lay in front of the couch. I was also this tired on the cruise as well, just was able to nap a lot more. I know healing takes time, and vitamin deficiencies take time to fix themselves, but I'm mopey right now that I'm very tired. I'm making the effort to go to the gym at least and walk for exercise, but I wish I felt more awake. I'm a chemistry grad student and sometimes I think I won't be able to get the PhD because I just physically cant do as much work as I feel im required to do. it just generally sucks.

That's the end of that. Just wanted to vent a bit. Thanks for listening.
You might just be feeling the reaction from the difference in sun intensity from the cruise to back in upper state NY.

It happened to me. I thought I would feel better going on a tropical vacation during the winter. I did for the time I was there but the crash when I came back was so severe it wasn't worth it. Now I just tough it out during the winter and take my D.

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