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Originally Posted by Lisa N
By whole grains I mean whole rolled or steel cut oats (or a multigrain blend that was available at a local health food store then), I used a tablespoon of real maple syrup on my hot cereal instead of sugar, homemade multigrain bread (I was an avid bread baker before the kids came along...low fat, of course ![Wink](/images/smilies/wink.gif) ) and by vegetables I meant green beans, carrots, peas (not often; don't care for them much), winter squash, mixed vegetable blend, broccoli, tomatoes and the occasional potato (small red potato size). Fresh, when available, otherwise from frozen. V8 juice (the very small can) was a staple in my lunch box along with grapes, carrots and apples or a small cup of sugar-free applesauce. I don't care for bananas...it's a mouth texture thing.
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You know, it's still hard to believe that being 170 pounds and constantly in caloric deficit you've gained 90 pounds over 10 years. let's see, you had eat at least 13 calories per pound to keep your weight stable and it is a whopping 2210 caloris, now you were at 1200-1500 calories and gained. I'm sorry, Lisa but I don't believe it. Either you underestimated your calories or you cheated with high sugary treats.
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I admit I ate too much "quick and easy" food in college (not all junk, but quick and easy), but I attribute the weight gain not to just that, but to not playing sports a couple of hours a day any more as well. A full course load plus working a part time job didn't leave me much time for sports and my grades were more important to me at that point.
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I had a 2 yo son by the time I've graduated (we used to get married very early in former SU, LOL), so I had to study full time, run a household and raise a baby. I had good grades and at that point of my life I did not exercise at all, remeber I started to exercise here, it'is more american, women in Europe don't exercise they simply eat less
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. I did not smoke either.
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Dina, you know as well as I do that A1C can be influenced by a host of factors including stress level
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Thank you, Lisa, I do know that BG can raise during any illness but before you dismissed my point that stress can be the causes of diabetes. You are an intellegent person but when it comes to discussion, you always find justification that suites you while finding your opponent argument anectodal.
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any periods of sickness (I'd just gotten over a bad case of asthmatic bronchitis when the last test was done and had been on a steroid inhaler for 2 weeks) and variations in lab testing.
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I'm sorry that you have astma and can't believe you continue to smoke, it's a very subjective view on your own health, obsessing about BGs and neglecting your other condition.
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I expect the next test to be between 4.7 and 5 again.
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I understand you simply trying to achieve this number at any cost, smoking itself is a greatest risk for heart desease alone, even MI, I hope you are aware of it.
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Perimenopause is known to contribute to weight gain in most women. But...I'm not gaining.
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You live in ketosis, Lisa, it's hard to gain. other women don't. But wait another 6 years, when you get a bit closer, then we'll talk.
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I did quit once for 4 months...lost 10 pounds during that time. Go figure. And yes, it's known that nicotene artificially increases metabolism which is part of the reason for the weight gain when it is withdrawn and dietary habits are not changed (or excercise increased). As for the obese smokers, perhaps they would be even heavier if they didn't smoke?
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Lisa, I wasn't smoking until in my youth, then I've had a 4 years brake after my youger daughter was born, and I was slimmer after I had the baby than even before, when I've smoked. Apparently, this time it was a combination of menopause, life style changes and simply eating too much of everything, I admit. It's also known that constant stress pushes cortisol and adrenalin, and even I didn't eat sweets, I ate much more than I used to, especially more protein and fat. So, hence the weight gain.
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It's no secret that if you want to consume more carbs, you have to move your body more but I hope you'd at least agree that your level of activity is neither typical nor practical for most people today.
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Actually, it's the other way around, I used exercise not to keep my BGs low and burn carbs, actually without exercise BGs are better, as you know exercise spike BGs. In addition, exercise are appetite promoting, ketosis supresses it. So, it's easy to eat less than you don't workout
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, trust me. I do it just for my overall health: cardio benefits, stronger bones, great mood, good skin and muscle tone, feeling and looking younger. Exercise makes everyday tasks a piece of cake (no pun intended), and gives me wonderfull feeling of wellbeing, while ketosis made my life living hell, no kidding.
As you know menopause also sets us for osteoporosis and I don't take calcium supplements, just don't take any except for herbs for pancrease support. So, by pumping iron and also make sure that my bones won't be brittle . Why do you think it's not typical and not practical to exercise an hour a day, becuase you don't do it? Many women get up at 4-5 am to be able to fit exercise in their routine, my co-workers who work full time and have little ones, all it takes is self-discipline. For many exercise is a lifestyle. All you need is a pair of dumbells and exercisee tape if you are a beginer. An hour a day is not too much and it's not my fault that my work requires lots of physical activities too, however, I do too have days in front of PC crunching data and writing reports , but I love being active.
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I also hope that you realize that if for some reason your activity level decreases (injury, job change, etc...) that the carb level would also need to decrease in proportion or you will likely see those good A1c numbers start climbing.
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Again, exercise is not a tool for me to manage my BGs. Exercise for diabetics is a life saver, providing tremendous benefits alone. Actually Dr.B is a big proponent of streneous exercise, if you remember. I workout because I just happen to like it and my carb level has nothing to do with it, I won't change my eating habits even with less demanding job but I never stop working out. IMO, ketosis is only acceptable if one is bed ridden. Why do you think that in order to contol BG one
must be in ketosis, I browse other diabetic sites, and many ppl perfectly control this desease by just lower carb, and doing very well. May be my pancrease is not exhausted since I didn't have sweet tooth, and never binged on sugary treats. Yes, I ate 2-3 pieces fruit a day, but mostly low GI, didn't even liked grapes much before, and we had the best grapes in the world. I don't follow ADA diet either, once Ive learne about dx, I started reading as much as I could. I never been to diabetic class, simply because I don't eat starches and bread, don't drink fruit juice either. I didn't follow exchange plan, I have my own. I simply eat less overall by controlling my portions and avoid high GI food. 100g carbs a day or less, 125 is total carbs with fiber, is not a high carb diet. I keep my BG stable, don't spike after a meal (my 2 hh is almost the same as pre-meal or 10 points higher). So, why I have to torture my body and live in ketosis, I just don't understand, becuase you think it's the way to go. Again, I was self-diagnosted with hb1C =5.7, it's still non-diabetic range. As for FBG, it's another story, DP also happens in non-diabetics and my BGs drop to a normal level as soon as I eat.
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I'd also like to point out that it's something of a fallacy that you must consume higher amounts of carbs to perform physically demanding tasks. There are people here that run marathons on carb intakes lower than what I've seen you report (around 125 grams a day wasn't it?) and some of the very popular body building routines carb up one day a week (high carb, low fat) and then work out very strenuously on very low carbs the rest of the week.
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Lisa, I'm sure you are very good in web browsing and so am I, both our "medical degrees" came as a result of it BUT the diffrence between us that you know everything in ...theory, quoting other ppl experience, while I always justify only with my own
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. I'm not advocating eating more carbs for the exercise sake, I do try to stay at 100 or lower for the most days, but I also can't carb up (if you truly know what it means, up to 700 g carbs in 36 hours, won't suit me as a diabetic). Carb up also requires large amount of glucose in form of simple sugars, I won't do it mostly because I consider processed sugar poison. You need to educate yourslef a bit on CKD, it's done actually to ptomote muscle grow at the same time losing fat. I'm not a bodybuilder, juts try to stay in shape, that is it.
You can also read ketogenic Diet and Body Opus, you will see how easy and "pleasurable" exercise could be in ketosis. I could provide a link to some abstracts but it's really not necessary, you can google it yourself. So, just to summarize, one can achieve good BGs and overall health even without being in ketosis and avoiding something as benign as fruit. If you avoid all refined and sugary food, you will be fine too. May be you should give it a try?
Living in ketosis, smoking and not working out at the same time trying to achieve optimal health, for me it's an oxymoron. So, until you start practicing what you are preaching (how about to run a marathon on 30g carbs
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) sorry but I don't find your ideas creditable
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Best wishes,
Dina