Thu, Oct-08-09, 08:23
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I've decided
Posts: 16,864
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Plan: LC
Stats: 235/137.6/130
BF:haven't a clue
Progress: 93%
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Originally Posted by CarolynC
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Yes - that's it! Thank you
That was a fabulous post - really opened my eyes to the reality that the vegetables weren't exactly the cause of my mini-stalls.
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If one properly follows the rules of induction - that is eats most of their carb allowance from non-starchy vegetables - quite frankly, unless they have a massive appetite, even eating all carbs allowed from only non-starchy vegetables and deducting the fiber simply cannot - EVER - exceed calories to a point where a deficit is not in place, because of too many non-starchy vegetables with the fiber deducted.
To do such, a person would have to consume a high volume of food that's next to impossible for most people....for example (and I'm deducting fiber):
Let's start with protein - and say 125g a day as an average - so 500-calories. That 125g of protein is about a pound of meat (a touch more), so it's realistic in induction. It doesn't include any eggs, since eggs have carbs, ok?
Now if no carbs are coming from anywhere but non-starchy vegetables - that means no cream, no eggs, no cheese, no nuts, no mayo, no salad dressing with carbohydrate....nada, just non-starchy vegetables for carbs.
It would take, as one scenario example:
8 cups romaine lettuce [net 4.4g]
1 whole medium tomato [net 3.3g]
1 cup peeled, sliced cucumber [net 1.8g]
1 stalk celery [net 0.6g]
1/2 cup diced portabello mushrooms [net 1.5g]
1 cup cooked broccoli [net 6g]
1 cup cooked spinach [net 2.5g]
That's 20.1g net carbs - so you're contending that those 20.1g, with the 215-calories they'll provide are the problem?
With the 500-calories from protein and 215-calories from carbs (net) we're at 715-calories.....let's pretend someone used, oh, 4-TBS of butter [408 calories] on the veggies that are cooked and another 4-TBS of olive oil [477-calories] in the salad, and hey, we'll even throw in 2-TBS of vinegar too (another 0.8g carbs - so now we're over at 20.9g net)....even with that addition of fat calories (and the extra carbs and calories), we're look at a total calorie load of 1590-calories.....are the vegetables the problem?
I don't think so.
~ ReginaW, in the above linked post
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