Mon, May-18-09, 04:11
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Originally Posted by pangolina
Can you point me to some information that explains why/how raw potato and arrowroot are toxic, and in what amount?
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Potatoes contain anti nutrients (saponins/glykoalkaloids) - solanine and alpha shikonin, which increase gut permeability.
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Solanine is a glycoalkaloid poison found in species of the nightshade family, such as potatoes. It can occur naturally in any part of the plant, including the leaves, fruit, and tubers. It is very toxic even in small quantities. Solanine has both fungicidal and pesticidal properties, and it is one of the plant's natural defenses.
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Glycoalkaloids are a family of poisons commonly found in the plant species Solanum dulcamara (nightshade).[1] There are several glycoalkaloids (alkaloids + sugars) that are potentially toxic. A prototypical glycoalkaloid is called solanine (sugar [solanose] + alkaloid [solanidine] = solanine), which is found in potatoes. The alkaloidal portion of the glycoalkaloid is also generically referred to as an aglycone. The intact glycoalkaloid is poorly absorbed from the GI tract but causes GI irritation. The aglycone is absorbed and is believed to be responsible for observed nervous system signs. Glycoalkaloids are bitter tasting, and produce a burning irritation in the back of the mouth and side of the tongue when eaten.
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Autoimmune diseases are an unintentional vaccine against your own tissue (ie. celic, Type I diabetes, MS)
An adjuvant (additive) is added to vaccine to promote immunity - common adjuvant are cholera, LPS, aluminium hydroxide. Saponins are very powerful adjuvants.
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In immunology, an adjuvant is an agent that may stimulate the immune system and increase the response to a vaccine, without having any specific antigenic effect in itself. The word “adjuvant” comes from the Latin word adjuvare, meaning to help or aid. "An immunologic adjuvant is defined as any substance that acts to accelerate, prolong, or enhance antigen-specific immune responses when used in combination with specific vaccine antigens." Adjuvants have been called the dirty little secret of vaccines in the scientific community, because much about how adjuvants work is a mystery. Known adjuvants include oils, mercury, aluminum salts, and virosomes.
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Adjuvants + gut bacteria can cause inflammation and possibly autoimmune disease (as they mimic the bodies own tissue).
MS = T cells fail to recognize and attack nerve and brain tissue (auto antigens ie. Myelin Oligodendrocyte Glycoprotein (MOG)/Myelin basic protein (MBP)) = movement and sensory impairment.
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T cells belong to a group of white blood cells known as lymphocytes, and play a central role in cell-mediated immunity. They can be distinguished from other lymphocyte types, such as B cells and natural killer cells by the presence of a special receptor on their cell surface called T cell receptors (TCR). The abbreviation T, in T cell, stands for thymus, since this is the principal organ responsible for the T cell's maturation. Several different subsets of T cells have been discovered, each with a distinct function
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So potatoes are toxic, increase gut permeability and then also act as adjuvants, which may cause the body to develop auto immune diseases.
Arrowroot is also a tuber (though not a nightshade) and shares similar properties. It can be eaten raw (ie. you won't die straight away) - that doesn't mean it is good for you.
Last edited by Tarlach : Mon, May-18-09 at 04:16.
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