Sat, Jun-23-18, 09:09
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Posts: 378
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Plan: Keto + IF
Stats: 260/300/165
BF:
Progress: -42%
Location: Alberta, Canada
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Originally Posted by teaser
There are some mouse studies where msg is added to their drinking water. The mice do eat more food, so the increased appetite is there even when the msg isn't added directly to the food--but they also have an increased metabolic rate, it doesn't make them fat.
If I would eat rice, I would eat more umami rice than plain white rice. I mostly eat eggs, meat, heavy cream and butter, I do well with these but if I used any of it to enhance the flavour of rice, I think I'd get in trouble.
The chinese buffet effect is sort of confounded by the variety of foods available, even msg-free, variety tends to increase food intake. That "super satiating" effect of plain potatoes that science has supposedly revealed doesn't work so good if you're offered pizza or even just a juicy pork chop after being "sated" on potatoes.
People hardly ever add just msg to something, usually you have that combo of carbs and fats to deal with as well. Studies that look at msg and appetite in humans seem to be centred on single meal effects, a bowl of msg broth, are you hungry a half hour later? I find these pointless, because the first time you're introduced to a food, in a particular environment etc., that affects your dopamine etc. response vs. once you're used to the conditions.
A pubmed search gives a lot of mixed stuff, several studies where msg-laced broth supposedly decreases appetite, or increases appetite but also increases satiety, etc. also studies looking at purported health benefits.
With artificial sweeteners--once I made some almond butter, added some sweetener and cinnamon. Tasted like cookie dough. I froze it to make it harder to eat, that made it worse, yummy frozen cookie dough. But I've done just fine while swilling large amounts of diet pop, or artificial sweetener in my coffee. I try not to have a sweetened beverage with a meal.
The only thing I eat right now that has ingredients is heavy cream. So I'm saving all my paranoia for carageenan.
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Thanks, I've added Too Much Variety to my list of obesity cause theories:
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showpost...78&postcount=48
Geez, do I have to worry about carageenan now too? I think I'm going to go insane.
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