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Old Tue, Apr-30-13, 12:39
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Would a DVD like Fat Head be an easier way to sell it? It is pretty entertaining and easy to watch. Tom McNaughton is very humorous.

I've never been able to sell my sister either. Some people just not interested in trading food for health.

Even my BIL knows he could manage his BG with diet, but he just won't do it.


I didn't mean to take so long to come back to this thread. I have a lot of stuff to answer/respond to. I think he has seen fathead, but we could watch it again. I don't remember, does it talk a lot about diabetes? He is interested in improving his diet, he just doesn't want to totally overhaul it. He doesn't believe in purism about anything at all, in any context. He sees that our son Mark needs to eat a purist gf diet but Steve (DH) doesn't break out on his forehead for the whole world to see, or get debilitating stomach aches when he eats sugar.
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Old Tue, Apr-30-13, 12:45
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I have a feeling the protein causing kidney stones is another myth. You might want to research that one. Usually uric acid is the issue and that is more linked to fructose than anything.

You know, I went and looked that up and it's a promising tack. I started broaching the subject and the approach I took with it is that I did some reading and it appears that the good thing is that what he's already doing for his diabetes may help with future kidney stones. I didn't want to say "See! That sugar is pure evil! It even gives you kidney stones!!" (He's already bought into the evil sugar thing but he doesn't see how completely flour turns into it in your system. He's ripe for the understanding, he just isn't there yet. The less extreme and controlling I can play it, the more effective I'll be.) I'll be amazed if it's not part of Dr. B's book. I'm looking forward to reading it even though I've gotten the impression that it's very involved and kind of dry.



Don't forget that cauliflower can be made into a pretty good mashed potato substitute and even a rice substitute. Lots of subs available for noodles like spiral slicing veggies, shirataki, even someone posted a way to make spaghetti out of chicken... I haven't tried it yet.

Does he like pizza? The Deep Dish Pizza Quiche might convert him to low carb all by itself.

IMHO you need to kind of cater to his tastes and gently expand his horizons. Avoid arguing about it, that'll just turn him off.


He'll like all of that stuff. He's all about variety. The entire issue is for him not to still resort to the old stuff while he's enjoying the new ones too.
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Old Tue, Apr-30-13, 12:50
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Are you pricking on the side of the finger..not the pad?
Read Bloodsugar101 for more tips to make testing easier. Side of thumb the least painful for me. Jenny also has how to time the tests to save strips, not prick so often, but still get the info you need.

Thanks. That sounds helpful. His skin is very tough to break but it still hurts, somehow. We do use the side of the fingers, but he still hates it. I have taken to emulating the nurses we met. They don't ask. They just pick up a finger and do it.

Would a guy like Diabetes Warrior appeal to him? His story is inspiring but the Paleo dedication may be OTT.

I'll check him out. Chances are, some of it will be relevant for him.

To reduce GI of starchy foods
1. Cook gently..potatoes and rice boiled have lower GI than roasted.
2. Avoid commercially processed starches. Home boiled rice, not rice puffs.
3. Eat with lots of fats, esp. Dairy, vegetables with fiber, and acids, esp. Vinegar.
Translates to have a boiled potato with butter and leafy green salad with vinegar dressing.

Agree with watching Fathead, or maybe Dr Eenfeldt's lecture. Read back in this forum..I also posted a short video interview with Dr Jay Wortman..video for how to eat for diabetes.


Thanks. This is now the required words outside the quote, to make the post go.
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Old Tue, Apr-30-13, 13:01
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He should see a nephrologist about the kidney stones. Just from some googling I did, those protein stones might be caused because his kidneys aren't functioning well from the diabetes. They might not be filtering protein well.

Being faced with a kidney transplant if he doesn't straighten up his act might get him to be more serious about low carb.



Well, I will check that out, but he was getting stones way before he was diabetic. That's a good point about the transplant. His late dad only had one functioning kidney and he has an aunt (dad's sis) with one very weak kidney. I am mentally cataloging the points that he needs to consider in order to get this behind him if it can be done.

1. The hardest recommendations will be coming from a medical specialist who is not in the pockets of the pharmaceutical companies. He is very cynical about corporate greed, so it should resonate.

2. His mom has been good and disciplined along the lines of the ADA recommendations for that more moderate diet and yet, she has had to move to insulin and she has some medical issues that may be related to her diabetes. His aforementioned readiness to believe that they're all in it together should kick in on this, too.

3. Along with the transplant thing, there are:
  • Sexual dysfunction (Notice how I put that first?)
  • More stones (if the sugar and uric acid thing is valid)
  • Decreased mental acuity (He already is getting this)
  • Nerve damage (also something he may be getting already)
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Old Tue, Apr-30-13, 13:09
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Dr. B has been more helpful to me than anything in managing my diabetes. Does your husband do any exercise? I mean even if he takes a walk daily it will help. I watched my mom and dad go back and forth about what he ate until the diabetes won. My advice: please don't argue with him about what he eats. try to encourage him. You can't care more than he does because it will destroy your relationship. As bad as you want it, you can't want it for him. He has to want it for himself.
Don't lose yourself trying to manage his disease. Please take care of yourself!


Yes, he loves to lift weights. He also loves to run but he can't do as much of that as he did when he was young. He did cross country in high school and used to run for miles, just to burn off steam. He does want to be healthy, he just has a tendency to "want it all" in every aspect of life. He wants to save money and shop his brains out at the same time, for example.

I understand your point about not arguing. Believe me, he will teach a person not to argue with him. Like I said, he fights dirty. But I, on the other hand, am a strategist and will think long and hard about effective ways to communicate what he needs to do for himself. A lot of times, he will snap back at me, and I will back off, obviously just to avoid a fight. Then, he ruminates on it, feels guilty and will come back to make peace and also do the adult thing. This whole problem is all about helping him see what the real solution to his problem is and allow him to get on board for himself. I don't feel like I am up against some awful deadline because he is improving. That's just not going to be enough in the long run, but I can see how his body will eventually show him what he needs to do. That and the glucose meter, that is.
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Old Tue, Apr-30-13, 13:11
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Over a 100 articles by Dr Bernstein on his website,
http://www.diabetes-book.com/cms/

Jimmy Moore is replying a "Classic" interview with Dr. B on May 22, so will be on iTunes after that date.


Thanks for that link. It may offer some shorter explanations for particular issues he will be dealing with. I'll definitely watch for the interview.
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Old Wed, Jun-12-13, 17:13
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How is your husband doing now?
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