Well I understand the theory of NEAT, but we're talking about where the calories are derived and if calorie reduction is paramount and the only factor when it comes to dietary needs for weight loss..excluding excercise.

My point about this gentlemen that ate all that ground beef with mayo, is that he was able to lose weight with pure fat and protein and at a hypercaloric intake..he was a pretty mellow,laid back man...

So would he of been able to lose weight eating a predominately carb diet at this caloric level??

His answer after experimenting with both high carb,med protein,low fat..then going high fat,high protein,very low carb/zero carb approach.

His answer..NO WAY