Yes, I am a moderator in this DDF and I use the P:E calculator, though after two NO Masterclass I know fish and chicken are high enough to then mix with other foods with more energy. After years of being very low carb and only having limited amounts of high fat dairy, I have loved adding back LF yogurt and cottage cheese, mixed with collagen, whey protein and frozen mixed berries. I check those "bowl combos" to be sure not too far off the PE gauge. Many practical tips, which foods to eat or not, on this new Ted Naiman interview with Bett Lucas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP2xKjbA4PA


Ps: yesterday on Twitter Ted Naiman gave a thumbs up to a Fairlife Protein Shake (try Target) I’ve been using the Trader Joe's brand of Ultra-Filtered milk, need to forage for some new foods

Pps: Hit a new low this morning, .4 below previous low weight the 45min to 1 hour cardio in the water 6 days a week is probably helping too, at least tightening some of the flab from almost a year without strength machine exercise.

Iceberg, are you using the "Hulk" green smoothie from the NO Masterclass?
The other "protein dessert" I like is the PSMF Flan in the free sample recipe books shared in class (both are from the KetoGains guys). https://optimisingnutrition.com/ket...lan/#more-16451