This is good information, Janet, and Marty seems to respond to any confusion or controversies at just the right time. While I've read this information, it's important for people to understand that protein is really the primary dietary fulcrum in that quantity of protein consumed has everything to do with satiety, ability to lose or gain weight, and ultimately metabolic and physical health. Between Naiman and Kendall combined with some timely research by others, it's clear about the role protein plays. Combining this knowledge with the understanding of protein types and the bio-availability of various protein sources, one can successfully achieve improved weight and overall health. That's why I call protein the fulcrum macro.