I listened to Campbell being interviewed the other day on Doctor Radio (Sirius XM). He told the same story about DASH and Mediterranean being the best options. He also discussed his experience with Whole30, and said it worked very well for him and that he followed it for longer than 30 days. He quickly added that you give up all sugars and dairy, as if those caveats would be the two things that would cause Whole30 to be a non-starter.