don't think desperate E. You must think long term, stay on a plan that works for you and hold to it. That is all any of us are doing ya know.

but darn if it ain't hard for all of us at some point

ZIOH is great cause I started with them. They were WAY more tough on posts back in the day but now they allow alot more chat.

Also find Strict Carnivore. I am a moderator there and I can join ya real fast

ZCH....Zero Carb Health is another wonderful site......all 3 are strict carnivore with tons of info to help those who need this plan.

I wish you the best.

One thing, no matter what you choose and how to do it, you gott stick to it. Only time results come is when one HOLDS plan like the devil and darn it can be a rough road, but once ya do, so much great comes from it and we truly change body, soul and mindset if we put real big time into this big big change.

I will see ya on ZIOH!!!